Posted on 02/13/2007 9:44:17 PM PST by FairOpinion
The survey taken Friday through Sunday - nearly a year before the first presidential primaries are held - shows Clinton with a 19-percentage-point edge over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama among Democrats and Giuliani with a 16-point margin over Arizona Sen. John McCain among Republicans.
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Media conducts polls and lives by polls. That's what has changed.
My conclusion: He's clueless.
I totally agree. Just one of many reasons I couldn't vote for him...
Not entirely true, I met Duncan SR when his son was a student of mine at Ft Sill OK. THose of us in the military know who he is.
From your Jan. 15, 2007 posting of a San Diego County paper, I quote:
"Hunter, R-El Cajon, got 96 votes among the 458 ballots in the non-binding poll of Maricopa County party officials asked to list their first choice for president."
Obviously Californian Republican political people know more about Hunter, than the American voters at large.
Hunter's challenge today is to gain national name recognition at a MUCH FASTER pace than he has thus far; since his announced candidacy in Oct 2006.
There is little evidence he is doing so. But I wish him success.
So is it the media that influences folks to return the results in polls we see,, or is it the polls that influence people to return the results they wish to portray as the people's? ;-)
Polls say we should not surge and both dems and repubs agree.
Polls say we should move to the center but don't really say why.
Polls are nothing more tools to sway people, not sample people and their positions, imo. They are a snapshot in time, and a fuzzy flleting one at that, in most instances.
So Rudy benefits even when he is also as much in tune with McCain and Bush?
But becuz he is not an elected official in office today, he in turn gets the nod.
Strange indeed..
Still do.
His CFR was the democrats greatest weapon against the GOP in the last election.
Name me a poltician who hasn't changed his position in order to get elected.
You're being naive.
Its actually fairly common for a local politician to change positions on a number of issues when running for national office.
You rascal, polling isn't cheap, yaknow..
If the results aren't what the folks that commissioned them wanted or anticipated, they are either re-done 'til they do meet expectations or trashed outright.
I just find the early results a bit suspect,, I await a round or two of debates and would rather not see the money pool exhausted and the race declared over before the horses are even allowed to enter the starting gate.
Name me a poltician who hasn't changed his position after he got elected.
What we are saying to our brothers and sisters in Christ who share our common values of faith in God and family, the Mormons, is you folks are the n-word of the Republican Party as African–Americans are to the Democrat Party.
It’s just fine that you Mormons vote Republican by nearly a 9-to-1 margin (2000 election data), dozens of you have served as Governors, Senators, Representatives, Cabinet members (one serving there currently) and Ambassadors (Reagan had more than 15 Mormons in his administration alone), but don’t you dare think any of your “cult” will ever be elected President of the U.S.A. Never gonna happen.
That message, my fellow FReeper, is one of the most disgusting and un-American things imaginable. It is offensive in the extreme. No Republican should ever associate himself with such vile, religious bigotry (not saying that you do Rome2000). We should stand ready to oppose that type of thinking at every opportunity.
For the record, I'm not a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), but I lived among them for 16 years while growing up in Utah. I admire and respect them more than any other people in this nation.
Happy Valentine's Day, Norm. I have a program to watch right now.
Happy Valentine's day as well.
[[I really like a Rudy/Mitt ticket, once the dust clears.]]
I doubt it will hapen. Two northeasterners on the ticket would not work well. Giuliani is definitely the frontrunner now, anyone saying otherwise is folling themselves.
That said, I think everyone should support their favorite candidate through the primaries. I don't think it is necessary to engage in the politics of personal destruction to support one candidate over another. Once that is decided, Hillary must be defeated at all costs.
If things hold, and Giuliani wins the nomination, I would support him totally. Right now, Hunter holds the closest to my views, but I also realize he has a huge hurdle to overcome with name recognition and he is not a media darling as Clinton and Carter were to get their nominations. Grassroots alone will not be enough.
Taking it one step further, if Giuliani wins, I would love a Giuliani / Hunter ticket or Giuliani / Barbour ticket.
Yes, I suppose I'd give up my guns for Rudy as well, if I had any in the first place...NOT!
Apparently so.
I'm not LDS either (Lutheran, FWIW). However, being on the West Coast, I and most of America owes a huge debt, simply from the matter of history (sans religion), to the LDS church for, essentially, finishing the establishment of the West Coast by virtue of capitalizing the Central Pacific Rail.
Regardless of one's theology, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is gigantic in American history. I would smear them as soon as I'd smear the RCC. As an added bonus, for those who fear, the LDS Church theology is the only canonical tradition based in North America.
Yeah, that ole Rush Limbaugh fella, he hasn't mentioned him at all.
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