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Vanity: The tale of two parties

Posted on 02/13/2007 3:02:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson

We have two major political parties in America. One is pro abortion, pro gay rights, anti first amendment, pro gun control, pro big government, pro big spending, pro illegal immigrant, pro environmentalism, pro United Nations, anti war.

The other is or is quickly becoming pro abortion, pro gay rights, anti first amendment, pro gun control, pro big government, pro big spending, pro illegal immigrant, pro environmentalism, pro United Nations, fading quickly on the war.

Huh?


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To: Jim Robinson

Well put Jim.
We Republicans have our values of pro life, against big government, againt illegal immigration, etc.
We need to remember, we don't have to emulate the democrats
to beat them.


21 posted on 02/13/2007 3:13:28 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Jim Robinson
Maybe McCain(e) isn't so bad after all?

Yes, he is. He's awful it's just that Rudy is "awfuler".

22 posted on 02/13/2007 3:13:44 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Spruce
What's the solution? IS there as solution?

That big bad 3rd party will rise like a Phoenix only to elect Queen Hillary.

23 posted on 02/13/2007 3:14:13 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Or Sultan Barak Obama....


24 posted on 02/13/2007 3:14:49 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Jim Robinson; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; wagglebee

"... at the length, truth will out..."


25 posted on 02/13/2007 3:14:57 PM PST by cgk (Republicanism didn't make Conservatives a majority. Conservatism made Republicans a majority. [NEWT])
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To: Jim Robinson
We have two major political parties in America.

True; but on closer examination you will discover they are merely two cheeks of the same ass.

26 posted on 02/13/2007 3:15:01 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Graybeard58

What about Newt? Why not someone like Newt?


27 posted on 02/13/2007 3:15:25 PM PST by jdm (Democrats Take House/Senate; no Petronski... 2007 is going to be a <b>long</b> year...)
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To: Jim Robinson

I feel like a Black that is trying to escape the plantation because I won't vote for a liberal Republican. Whoever gets my vote is going to earn it by representing my conservative values and beliefs.


28 posted on 02/13/2007 3:15:40 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Jeff Head
Sadly...tragically...true.

As a conservative,I have no problem with joining a new party that reflects my values,the "Republican Party" is only a name,and it is leaving me,I didn't leave it.

29 posted on 02/13/2007 3:15:47 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: MosesKnows

LOL!


30 posted on 02/13/2007 3:16:10 PM PST by jdm (Democrats Take House/Senate; no Petronski... 2007 is going to be a <b>long</b> year...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, you sum up the current situation very well. What suggestions would you have to correct it?


31 posted on 02/13/2007 3:18:00 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: MosesKnows

OTTAWA - Canadian, U.S. and Mexican politicians discussed using "stealth" to overcome public resistance to the integration of the three countries at a confidential meeting last year, according to documents just released under U.S. Freedom of Information laws.

Top military brass, corporate executives and diplomats also attended the meeting in Banff, Alta., where participants discussed everything from the harmonization of food and drug standards, to common immigration policies, and the pooling of energy resources.

The secret guest list of the North American Forum included then-U.S. secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld, Canadian Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, Pengrowth Corp. CEO James Kinnear and Lockheed Martin executive Ron Covais.

Presentation outlines for the forum acknowledge that the concept of North American integration - which some call a "North American Union" - is unpopular, and note that it might be tough to sell as a concept.

"While a vision is appealing, working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board ('evolution by stealth')," the notes said.

"Evolution by stealth" means using regulatory changes, such as food- and drug-safety benchmarks, which don't require parliamentary approval, to lay the infrastructure for North American integration. This allows for change with little or no public debate, critics say.

Media were excluded from the September forum, and Day, who gave a speech at the event, declined to reveal the contents of his talk.

"It was meant as a private meeting," said Melisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman from Day's office, although she conceded he attended "in his capacity as minister for public security."

"It is not encouraging to see the phrase 'evolution by stealth' in reference to important policy debates such as North American integration," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a Washington-based conservative watchdog group that obtained the documents last week.

But, former finance minister John Manley, who attended the meeting, said the forum was "not part of a nefarious plan to yield sovereignty to the U.S. .... It was just some informed private citizens and government officials having a conversation" on how best to co-operate to ensure their citizens enjoyed a safe and prosperous future.

In fact, he said, Canada comes out stronger than ever from such meetings, which force "some senior American officials to think about Canada for a few days."

However, Maude Barlow of the Council of Canadians said the reference to stealth is "a very telling and important statement."

Many of the politicians who attended the forum have been pursuing "integration by stealth" for the past two years, she said, pointing to a little-known but top-priority agreement called the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1784157/posts


32 posted on 02/13/2007 3:18:23 PM PST by meg88
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To: Graybeard58
An amazing number of people here back a so called Republican candidate who is pro almost everything you mentioned.

I was thinking the same thing. There seems to be a pro-Rudy spam piece posted per minute.

33 posted on 02/13/2007 3:18:51 PM PST by MSM Hater (If it quacks like a duck....)
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To: Jim Robinson

As far as I know, the GOP platform has not undergone a re-write and the first of the candidate debates have yet to commence. Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) primary number one won't be held until February 2008.


34 posted on 02/13/2007 3:19:08 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: MosesKnows
True; but on closer examination you will discover they are merely two cheeks of the same ass.

That, my FRiend, is a keeper and you should immediately copyright it and use it as a tagline.

35 posted on 02/13/2007 3:19:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Spruce
What's the solution? IS there as solution?

Only support candidates that support your principals. 40 senators that will stand up for what you believe is better than 51 if 11 of them will sell you out anytime it suits them. The 40 is at least a beginning. The 51 is the beginning of the end.

36 posted on 02/13/2007 3:19:48 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That big bad 3rd party will rise like a Phoenix only to elect Queen Hillary.

NFP

never forget Perot

37 posted on 02/13/2007 3:20:22 PM PST by b9 ("America is great because America is good." ~ Duncan Hunter)
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To: Jim Robinson

Join us in the New World Order Jim. Resistance is futile.

38 posted on 02/13/2007 3:20:25 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump


39 posted on 02/13/2007 3:21:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

Hey you!


40 posted on 02/13/2007 3:22:26 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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