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Ted Olson Supporting Giuliani
American Spectator ^ | 2/13/07

Posted on 02/13/2007 12:34:44 PM PST by zarf

Theodore Olson, the stalwart conservative lawyer and former solicitor general for the Bush administration, told the Spectator he will be supporting Rudy Giuliani's presidential bid.

"I admire his character, his capacity for leadership, his instincts, and his principles," Olson said over the phone this afternoon. He said he will help Giuliani raise money as well as offer advice on legal issues and domestic policy matters that involve constitutional questions.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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To: Dog Gone
Whether this forum likes it or not, the odds are pretty much in Rudy's favor to get the GOP nomination. It's his to lose.

"Shore" is looking that way. First candidate debate is scheduled for April 4, 2007.

101 posted on 02/13/2007 1:21:24 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: twonie

I think the "real conservatives" won't be happy until the Republican Party is a permanent minority that can only win the states with lots of evangelicals (deep south) and maybe a few states in the plains and mountain west.

And then they can complain while a permanent Democrat majority socializes society. Because under that kind of system, Democrats win everywhere else by default (midwest, northeast, west, etc).


102 posted on 02/13/2007 1:22:20 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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To: RepublicanPOTUSin08; PhiKapMom; areafiftyone; Peach; zarf; zbigreddogz; JulieRNR21
A few years before his death in 1998, Goldwater started taking positions different from those of the conservative constituency at large. Conspicuous here was his defense of Supreme Court decisions involving abortion, gay rights, and the separation of church and state. Most followers of the senator were surprised, and abashed, especially at his defense of abortion. What emerged as a question, at the meeting in Phoenix, was whether his abortion position was owing to judicial ultramontanism, or to his general devotion to individual rights. It is not challenged that Goldwater defended abortion as though it were a closed issue, closed in the sense that the Supreme Court had ruled, in Roe v. Wade, that abortion was a constitutional right.

William F. Buckley
National Review Online
What Did Goldwater Mean?

103 posted on 02/13/2007 1:23:09 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: BeforeISleep

He would have been good on it!


104 posted on 02/13/2007 1:23:49 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: zarf

Under the circumstances, I think Ted Olson's endorsement of Rudy is no surprize, and in fact is entirely appropriate.


105 posted on 02/13/2007 1:24:12 PM PST by Bean Counter (Reading the Columbian so that you don't have to...)
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To: joesbucks

On the issue of race, Rudy is more conservative than any other Republican since he doesn't kiss Al Sharpton's ass.


106 posted on 02/13/2007 1:24:29 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: zarf

Every supporter of Rudy Guiliani now gets trashed right along with him. Amazing.


107 posted on 02/13/2007 1:24:34 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Cyclopean Squid
The conservative movement is already on its last legs.

Killed in just one off-year election too. Evidently it didn't have much real substance. But what surprises me is that so many FReepers are taking such joy in its demise.

108 posted on 02/13/2007 1:27:06 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: PhilDragoo

You are asking some of these people to read and comprehend? Thanks for the link!


109 posted on 02/13/2007 1:27:23 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: RockinRight
But when you have fundamental moral differences in the balance, you can only expect there to be direct discussion about those issues.

For me abortion and gay rights (among two or three other foundational issues of the day) go to the heart of the moral principles that define our liberty and vouchsafe it for future generations. As such, for me there is no way I could support any candidate, whatever his or her name, and whatever they may otherwise want to paint themselves as, who has those issues wrong from my perspective. And I will lobby and influence to that effect because they are such fundamental and core issues.

On those issues, if the former Mayor's stance is as his quotes from the past indicate (and it will be up to me, by studying those issues and his stance to determine this for myself), under no conditions could I cast a vote for him...or anyone else who has those issues wrong. I have a fundamental responsibility to (at least for me) a higher Judge and board of review in front of Whom I must one day stand and make account of how I used this sacred right and trust we call our liberty. I dare not discharge that trust in any effort in opposition to principles that I consider sacrosanct before my Maker.

But that's just me and my own opinion.

110 posted on 02/13/2007 1:28:31 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: RepublicanPOTUSin08

I agree with your rather dour assessment.


111 posted on 02/13/2007 1:29:14 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: nmh
Yes, she has to be spinning in her grave.

And how would you know? She died directly from terrorism and what makes you think that social issues would be important to her after what happened to her. If she were alive she would be siding with her husband after see 9/11 too.

112 posted on 02/13/2007 1:29:19 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

I was at a DoD type seminar today and a former US Navy Captain said that Rudy was the keynote speaker at a C4ISR (intelligence) conference last week in San Diego. He said Rudy's speech was great. Pragmatic, honest, forthcoming, open....and he said that that was why he feared Rudy would never make it. He said that Rudy talked about how there was no plan for a 9/11 disaster, NOBODY had planned for such a thing, much like nobody planned for a Katrina. But that Rudy and his team remembered that there were bits and pieces of various plans they COULD put into place.


113 posted on 02/13/2007 1:29:31 PM PST by merry10
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To: madprof98

It didn't have much substance. It was a product of luck in the 2000 election, and a little 9-11 patriotism that is already gone. The movement was a hiccup. It had its chance and failed. Maybe it could have been great, but too little was done when the planets were in alignment.


115 posted on 02/13/2007 1:31:49 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: merry10
How many abortions has Rudy Giuliani performed?

This is exactly the same kind of stupid nonsense liberals who support "abortion rights" have been spewing out at pro-lifers for years. Now the FReepers are coming out with it. And you wonder why we say the Giuliani supporters here are loathesome goons? It's not so much that we despise the liberal/libertarian New Yorker; it's that many of us actually believed this was a forum for conservatives. Some of us gave money in that belief. It's very disheartening.

116 posted on 02/13/2007 1:31:52 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: zarf
The old USSR allowed hunting.
The hunters were allowed only a single shot, shotgun with the ammunition controlled by type and quantity.
117 posted on 02/13/2007 1:32:14 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: RockinRight
"We're better than DUmmies."

Speak for yourself, Rockin. You are better than DUmmies. Some here are simply the mirror image of the radical left. If you go far enough right, the left starts coming past you, going the other way. Luckily, the polls here at FR indicate the Pout Crowd is quite small. And FR is the number one home of conservatives on the web.
118 posted on 02/13/2007 1:32:34 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: zarf; areafiftyone; PhiKapMom
Ted's comments:

Rudy's views on many, many issues are going to be very compatible with people in the conservative political community and the political legal community. Nobody's going to be able to find a candidate with whom they agree with 100 percent on every issue. Overall, Rudy's strength of character, his capacity for leadership in a time when a strong executive is important, his energy level, his ability to provide the kind of leadership that Ronald Reagan did -- I think that is going to be very persuasive with conservatives.

Via Powerline: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016772.php

119 posted on 02/13/2007 1:32:43 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Williams
Whether I want Rudy as the nominee is a wait and see. But I am pretty certain all this Rudy adulation is a vote of no confidence in McCain - who is conservative on more issues!

All this Rudy adulation is not merely a rejection of McCain -- it is a longing for leadership on the most important issue of our time: the war on terror and national defense. Rudy's leadership abilities have been proven and demonstrated in NYC: on crime; on shrinking the bureaucracy; on shrinking the welfare rolls; on cutting tax rates and reducing/elminating the massive NYC deficit; on making government more efficient; on going after terrorists (reference the Arafat encounter). Name a better proven leader in the running. You can't.

120 posted on 02/13/2007 1:33:47 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds (“The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”)
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