Bush Aides Like What They See In Guiliani

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070212/12giuliani.htm ^

[MittFan08]

While the White House is taking a hands-off approach to the 2008 GOP presidential primaries so far, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is quietly seeing an administration cheerleading section grow.

One insider said that it is built on the fact that Giuliani continues to beat Sen. John McCain in the polls and also because he is offering to stick with several Bush programs, including an aggressive stance against terrorists, and promises to name conservative judges to the court. One Bush official today noted Giuliani's pledge to nominate conservative judges and applauded the New Yorker for making that claim in liberal California.

"He didn't back away just because he was in California. In fact, he went there to make that statement. That's a very important signal," said the insider. Interestingly, even White House conservatives are showing support for Giuliani.

"He's the front-runner, and he's doing everything so far very good," said another official. "He isn't bending to what people want to hear. He kind of sounds like Bush did in 2000."

[Spiff]

To: PhiKapMom
To make the socially liberal Rudolf Giuliani seem acceptable to Republicans, George Will tolls the death knell for the party of Reagan.

Basically, George Will calls for us to abandon the Christian values of Ronald Reagan and the traditional Judeo-Christian values of our Founding Fathers. But if we abandon our Judeo-Christian moral values then what are we left with? What value system produces the culture of death and decadence, atheism, abortion, gay marriage, the harvesting of embryonic stem cells, human cloning, eugenics, the erosion and destruction of moral society and of our cherished God-given unalienable rights? And what value system fights against such evil?
To accept Rudolf Giuliani as the leader of the Republican party, among many other socialist mores we've fought against for so many years, we are told that we must accept abortion into our hearts. It is an accepted practice in modern America and only a minority of Americans say otherwise. Why resist?

Well, I'm sorry. I do not accept abortion into my heart. And I doubt the majority of Americans will either.

The mass murder of helpless innocent babies in the womb is evil. Period. Poking sharp instruments into the skulls of partially born babies and sucking their brains out is grotesque barbarism so horrific to be beyond the ability of most people to fully comprehend. It's unthinkable evil.

Knowing that the Democrat Party lovingly embraces this evil as part of their platform literally makes me sick to my stomach. Every time I see the face of Hillary, Kennedy, Schumer, Reid, et al, I see the face of pure evil. It's as if I'm looking into the face of Nazism

Rudolf Giuliani does not deliver us from this evil, he delivers us to it.

If the Republican party embraces this evil culture of death platform as the Democrat party does, then I will have to agree... it's time to move on.

The party of Reagan will be dead. The party of Lincoln will be dead. The party of Jeffersonian life and liberty will be dead. The only party defending human life and liberty in America will be dead.

The Republican party becomes the Democrat party and the Democrat party becomes the communist party, the right to life and liberty in America be damned.

Time and evil marches on.

Please pray for America.


140 posted on 02/11/2007 4:43:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)

[areafiftyone]

And you constantly posting that is supposed to do what????

[Corin Stormhands]

Oh good, you're still alive.

I was concerned the thread had been up a whole 30 minutes and we hadn't seen your chart.

[Spiff]

And you constantly posting that is supposed to do what????

Ensure that the truth about the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever is told in every one of your threads where you abuse this conservative forum to openly campaign for him.

[P-40]

an administration cheerleading section grow.

Never let a departing employee pick his successor...

[Corin Stormhands]

For the record, Free Republic has come out against the Rudy campaign.

Excuse me?

I know Jim has made his position clear. And I know this is Jim's site.

But I have yet to see Free Republic ~officially~ delcare ~against~ Rudy. There are a whole lot of long time FReepers who are supporting Rudy.

If Jim wants to make that an official FR position, then so be it. But I've not yet seen it.

I won't presume to speak for Jim.

Neither should you.

[Vaquero]

see #7 read....repeat

...from my dead cold hands....

[TitansAFC]

Listen, and I mean this politely:

Rudy Giuliani's idea of "Strict Constructionism" is RADICALLY different from our definition of strict Constructionism.

Let me break it down:

1.) Rudy calls himself a strict constructionist.

2.) Rudy has praised Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

3.) Rudy expressly believes that the Second Amendment COMPELS us to strictly regulate guns. He has stated that a "well-regulated militia" means strict gun regulation.

4.) He believes that there is a place for junk lawsuits against gun manufacturers in the law.

5.) He believes that Campaign Finance Reform is consistent with the First Amendment.

6.) He believes that Hate Crimes Legislation is consistent with the First Amendment.

7.) He has openly stated that he believes Roe vs. Wade is good law.

8.) He sees a place in law for the Practice of Partial Birth Abortion.

9.) He tried to get an extension as Mayor of NY, and even tried to have the law changed so that he could run again - a very Hugo Chavez-eques view of election laws.

10.) He sued the federal government over strict immigration laws, and acted in direct defiance of those laws to make NY an amnesty city.

11.) His record of appointing judges in NY is that of a far-leftist. He does not have total influence over all of the appointments; but it is entirely dishonest to say that it would have been impossible to get a single Conservative judge, or at least Consensus moderate judge, appointed in his entire tenure.


---His record, world view, legal view, and history all point to a radically different view of "strict constructionism" that most of us have. He cannot be trusted on the judges issue, because he is not credible. On the contrary, all factors considered indicate that we should be TERRIFIED of his judgment on said issue.

He cannot sell us on the "I'll appoint judges who'll protect you from myself" argument because he is not credible on the issue.

[areafiftyone]

Ensure that the truth about the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever is told in every one of your threads where you abuse this conservative forum to openly campaign for him.

Listen If I were abusing this forum I would have been banned a long time ago. But apparently I am following the posting rules that I signed on to. You guys are creating your own rules. Tell me where it say we can't post Rudy posts that are in the news? We haven't even posted anything at all from his website - all these posts are from legit news sources. So your idea of abuse is us liking someone you in particular are opposed to and that's all.

[LongsforReagan]

I love how guys who have been here a couple of years are telling long timers who have been here the better part of a decade to get lost because of our support for Rudy. At least if we did there are many "Pro-Rudy" sites as you put it. Cant say the same for Duncan Hunter or Tancredo or any other of the fringe candidates.

GO RUDY!

[areafiftyone]

At least if we did there are many "Pro-Rudy" sites as you put it. Cant say the same for Duncan Hunter or Tancredo or any other of the fringe candidates.

That is so true. And also why aren't they posing more Hunter or Tancredo posts? I hardly see any of them. They spend 90% of their time on the Rudy posts? I wonder why? Maybe they have a secret liking for Rudy? Ya think? ;-)

[areafiftyone]

posing=posting

[DocH]

No wonder.

"Compassionate" "conservatism" is not THAT far of a jump from RINO-rudy's LIBERAL RINOISM.

As another poster said, those that are all agog about this NON-conservative, can only be called...

RUtards.

[NYC Republican]

Excellent post... I lived in NYC during those days, and this is spot on accurate! Thanks

[RetiredArmy]

Of course Bush likes Rudi. They both are equally liberals.

[pgkdan]

Wow! I couldn't say it better if I took all day to try! That's exactly how I feel and why I'll never support Rudy or any other liberal Republican. If we, as a party, loose our moral underpinnings we loose our reason for being. A Republican Party minus it's socially conservative wing will be a perpetual loser and I pray that doesn't happen.

[areafiftyone]

RUtards.

Jeeze that's just so mature of that poster! (/sarcasm>

But then again, we wouldn't expect anything less from you guys!

[Peach]

Spammers. The last refuge of someone who has nothing to say.

And don't you just love how the rules have changed. At least when I get some good spam, I won't feel at all guilty about posting it on every page of every thread.

[areafiftyone]

LOL! I know. Jeeze if that was the case I could have changed the rules a long time ago when I didn't like a certain candidate. LOL!

[Long Island Pete]

These days that sign should read, "LIBS WILL FORGET"