[NapkinUser]

Ping.

[Coldwater Creek]

Can't you just see Rudy falling off of the stage in his tutu, or whatever get up that he is wearing these days.

[dirtboy]

The question is - will Giuliani go out on top or falling from the stage?

The more important question is, will Rudy take the party with him?

[Dreagon]

Guiliani simply can't win. He should save himself and his party the hassle and end this now.

[alarm rider]

"But this ship has long sailed. Since the rise and retreat of the Republican revolution 12 years ago, social conservatives have awoke from their slumber to realize they have been used and abused by a GOP establishment that takes their votes, but leaves their views at the door".

Note this, worth repeating, and don't give me the "scared of Hillary" load. It's time we demanded an actual conservative to lead.

[IslandJeff]

Fear and Loathing ping.

[dynachrome]

Good find. I guess Rudy will find out that the media doesn't love him if he becomes the nominee. Like is happening to McCain. Washington Post article on McCain here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1783521/posts

[pissant]

He's a typical NE lib republican. Now the question is: are conservatives going to cede the party to that wing of the GOP in hopes of having an electable guy. I say no.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

In the end, Rudy's Run will have served a valuable purpose to the people of America.

It's shown the incredible depth of contempt many Republicans hold for Pro-life, Pro-gun, Pro-sovereignty conservatives.

Thank you Rudy for an eye opening lesson.

But I'm still not voting for you.

[NapkinUser]

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

Is there ANY doubt whatsoever that Giuliani is an emotional and not a rational candidate?

[Clemenza]

Good advice for Mayor Linguine D---...

[SierraWasp]

"Remember, it was Eisenhower who gave the nation Earl Warren, Nixon who nominated Harry Blackmun and Reagan, the strongest pro-life president since Roe, who placed Sandra Day O'Connor on the bench."

I wonder why the writer left out that the appointed/annointed Ford/Rockefeller regime appointed the infamous John Paul Stevens!!! Good Lord!!!

calcowgril, where's the piece you were just showing me about Rudy that I FReepmailed you about? Why don't you add that to this collection just for fun, huh?

[mysterio]

1. Rudy isn't past his prime. He's just to squishy on guns to vote for.

2. Sinatra was still great in the 90s. Taking a swing at him like that is a low blow and inaccurate.

[Van Jenerette]

"But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it." - Rudy Giuliani

I have to question any man who would pay for the 'death' of his own grandchild.

Rudy has crossed three lines here:

(1)RUDY's abortion position is in sharp opposition to the REPUBLICAN NATIONAL PLATFORM.

(2)RUDY would directly fund/pay for an abortion; in this case with his own money, for his own daughter. If that is the type of leadership our REPUBLICAN party needs...[complete the sentence yourself]

(3)RUDY takes the position that his daughters CHOICE takes precedent over the LIFE of his own grandchild.

Sorry, this guy is the modern day equivalent of 'Queen for a Day' TV show...we only need to watch him for one episode...

If this is how Rudy Giuliani deals with his own 'flesh and blood' how will he deal with the rest of the people?

[scratching my head in disbelief at his popularity]

Just my thoughts....

[Geronimo]

I'm already starting to feel sorry for Rudy and nothing has really even hit the fan yet, you guys are brutal...

[JerseyJohn61]

I disagree with many of Rudy's social liberal stances,
but Rudy maybe the only republican candidate who can
win in '08.

Gingrich would be my first choice, but that just hoping
and not necessarily getting.

If it came right down to it, who would you prefer in the
Oval Office: Hillary/Obama or Rudy?

The above article is foolish for comparing Rudy to Sinatra.
Sinatra owed his fame and livelihood to the Mob, while
Rudy won his fame and livelihood busting up the Mob....JJ61

[Spiff]

From Giuliani campaign 1993 documents:

Simplicity is the best response to questions about abortion. Giuliani's answer to abortion questions should always be succinct and to the point. Giuliani is pro-choice. He supports public funding for abortion. He will continue city funding for abortions at city hospitals. Nothing more, nothing less.

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The Giuliani campaign should emphasize its candidate's independence from traditional national Republican policies. Especially useful in this strategy is Giuliani's role in overturning a Reagan administration attempt to throw disabled people off the Social Security rolls, his prosecution of Republican elected officials -- especially his authorization for call his boss, Attorney General Edwin Meese III, a sleaze, and his un-Republican views on many social issues of concern to New Yorkers, like abortion, gun control and bias protection for homosexuals.

[Torie]

Joe baby, you are indulging in a lot of wishful thinking, and confusing that with analysis. It is amazing as to the sheer quantity of utter drivel that is out there these days.

[montag813]

I am so sick of all this crap. Democrats, Republicans, RINOs, blah blah. None of these assholes will do anything to make America stronger. They can only make us weaker. It is the people, the entrepreneurs, the inventors, the risk-takers, the skilled and service workers. Those are who make America great, not these stupid pieces of shit who pretend to be our "leaders". Government is the enemy.

[Kevmo]

I like the title.