Posted on 02/12/2007 2:00:06 PM PST by Red6
BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German court on Monday ordered the release of Brigitte Mohnhaupt, a former member of the Red Army Faction (RAF) who has spent 24 years in prison for her involvement in multiple kidnappings and murders in the 1970s. The decision, which came after a request by Mohnhaupt for early release, is likely to cause a storm in the country, notably because she has expressed no remorse for a murderous RAF campaign which shook West Germany's new democracy to its core. The ruling comes as President Horst Koehler considers a pardon for Mohnhaupt's former RAF colleague Christian Klar, who has also spent the past 24 years behind bars. "This is not a pardon, rather a decision that is based on specific legal considerations," the court in Stuttgart said in a statement. "The decision for probation was reached based on the determination that no security risk exists."
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This is exactly why we need capital punishment. It is near ironic when I hear people talk of how horrible the hanging of Saddam was and it is often the same types who think this is OK. In the German media the reporting is near apologetic. They attempt to rationalize the release of a politically motivated sane serial murderer who has not nor does not feel any remorse or guilt after 24 years of prison.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,465916,00.html
To a liberal the world is real simple. Turn it on its head; make all victims into culprits and the culprits into victims. Applaud each other a lot when you make such profound statements and refer to each other as "intellectuals" at least once every 300 words.
It's no coincidence that these outcomes are seen over and over again, despite the convict's lack of remorse.
Pays to be a cold-blooded killer and an enemy of your society.
Fischer is a case-in-point. But like these RAF felons, he made sure he was on the "correct" side of the political divide. OTOH, if a neo-nazi says "Hitler had a few good ideas," he will receive no slack at all.
Nothing like that going on down here. The last time the Parole Board freed a notorious offender, they all got replaced. One was prosecuted.
The judges down here aren't too fond of the PB either.
Good on Georgia! I've always loved that state. Home of Doc Holliday and Ty Cobb.
Needless to say, there was some serious order in his court. He also is the judge who told the National Labor Relations Board to violate his order, just a little, and they'd see what authority he had to order them to stay out of Early County.
We shall not see his like again.
Sounds like my kind of judge.
Liberal judges and PBs have a social agenda which they put before considerations of public safety.
Hardened criminals also have an agenda which they put before considerations of public safety.
The two states of mind dovetail, like one hand washing the other.
This makes the outcome predictable, especially when you watch it happen over and over again.
Clear yet?
["Hardened criminals also have an agenda which they put before considerations of public safety."]
What you make you think they would any the else?
["This makes the outcome predictable, especially when you watch it happen over and over again."]
Maybe you should do a multiple regression analysis to support your hypothesis.
The social and political leadership of Germany share here basic views and at worst just think she went a little too far, that's all. If she'd have directed one-tenth of the level of terrorism against, say, Turkish immigration, or some other pet project of the ruling establishment, that she directed against her actual targets, she'd never see the light of day. It's the same thing with the Clinton pardons here.
well when they were captured they demanded to be POW's and our societies mesaage was - FU your just a mean killer - nothing more ntohing less.
What they got was, what a plain killer gets. She was a young girl when she went into prison and is now 58 years old.
If you think that you have to criticise the german society for they did not hang them high I can only say that I am proud on our courts.
At least we live in a republic now and our president cannot hijack, kill and torture people at will like the gestapo did in our dark times.
She already had been arrested before, then broke parole, was one of the leaders of this terrorist group, was involved personally in four murders and a kidnapping and today feels neither guilt or remorse for her actions. She is sane; her actions were premeditated, and politically motivated. She was no young girl but a middle aged adult in her late 20s and early 30s when she was involved in many of these acts.
Stop regurgitating "Der Spiegel" and their rationalization of why releasing such a person is justified, it's not.
Freiheit gleicht nicht Verantwortungslosigkeit.
Demokratie gleicht nicht Anarchie.
Recht bedeutet nicht das Täter zu Opfer gemacht werden und die Opfer zu Täter. Kritisch zu Denken heißt nicht immer die Welt auf dem Kopf zu stellen.
Man haette diese Person haengen sollen. Zur Zeit wo man sie einsperrte hieß es "Nie wieder kommt sie raus!" Nie wieder hieß das man im Balkan zu spät Eingriff, oder das Terroristen frei kommen. Nie wieder heißt vieles, außer was es wirklich heißen soll. Was hat man wirklich von der Geschichte gelehrnt?
In Iraq it is no different. Every terrorist considers himself a soldier, but they by no definition meet the requirements of such. Under no national flag, an informal leadership structure, not abiding to international conventions (in a vacuum of any legal authority or guidance), no uniform or identifying mark signifying them as a combatant these people go out to maximize collateral damage while hiding in the masses. They are everything a soldier is not. If you as a soldier take off your uniform and are caught by the enemy, they have every right to execute you, which was common practice by all sides throughout WWII. The argument that RAF terrorists are POW is just as absurd as those who want POW status for those at GITMO. Who cares how they want to see themselves. They can see themselves however they want, they still deserve to dangle (Im an advocate of hanging):
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r190_55.pdf
http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/hanging2.html#table
This is what you do with terrorists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
Im not citing spiegel ( a left but well informed newsmagazine) but the general attorney.
Show some respect and get informed before you utter your prejudices.
No.
I meant you should respect the Idea of a republic, the law of the federal republic of germany and the basic christina values.
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