Posted on 02/11/2007 10:27:49 PM PST by FairOpinion
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, still basking in his can-do post-Sept. 11 image, got a rousing welcome yesterday from Republican activists searching for a presidential candidate who can win in California.
No Republican presidential candidate has carried California since the elder George Bush did in 1988, and no one has even run a competitive race in the increasingly Democratic-leaning state since then.
Republicans are hopeful they have prospects in the large 2008 field who can reverse the trend by combining liberal and conservative stands that has proven so successful for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The popularity of the governor shows that you can take the positions that he holds and win in California, said Duf Sundheim, outgoing Republican state chairman. I think Giuliani has the same opportunity.
As for Giuliani, backers say his record on reducing crime and taxes in New York should give conservatives plenty to like. He was introduced to the convention yesterday by businessman Bill Simon, the 2002 Republican nominee for California governor who once worked under Giuliani in the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.
Simon said that as mayor, Giuliani cut taxes 23 times and reduced the city's murder rate by 67 percent. That is a record that as a conservative Republican, I can heartily endorse, he said.
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And Newt is NOT going to run. If he did, he would NOT beat Hillary, BTW.
Name me one, just one, now silent GREAT WHITE HOPE CONSERVATIVE, who can enter the race in December, let's say, and pull it out for you.
Fiscal conservatism is real conservatism.
And the world does not revolve around you.
I doubt that Giuliani can win in California, but he might force his Democratic challenger to spend resources there. That would be nice.
The Constitution is my top issue, and Paul's 100% on it. I know the documant is safe under his watch.
I just had someone tell me Rudy should drop out of the race and endorse Hunter!!
These people are dreamers.
Have you noticed that the hardcore Giuliani fans seem to be the same group who thought Harriet Miers was a good pick and supported her for the 24 days she was the pick? The same group that can loosely be defined as being the more pro-illegal alien group? Mostly the same people who are labeled Bushbots all the time? It's the same crowd I'm observing. It kind of tells you something, doesn't it?
What do you think the Constitution will be worth, if the terrorists will either nuke us, destroy our economy or take us over and turn us into a Caliphate -- none of which Ron Paul wants to stop.
This election will be decided before California finishes voting.
More than resources, If California becomes the battle ground, Hillary is going to have to say some really bizarre lefty stuff to get the vote. Can you say making campaign commercials for the Republicans?
Rudy didn't and should NOT have run against Hillary for that Senate seat, in '06, because EVERYONE knew that he was going to make a run for the presidency. He can now tell New Yorkers that they don't have a Senator working for them, because she's trying to be president. He can also wave the promises she made to every single person in that state, under their noses.
An understanding of politics appears to be not your forte.
The Constitution is the most important issue regardless of the circumstances. It's sad that I have to remind you of that.
LOL. I feel like a broken record on this thread. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Illinois, New Jersey. Those are blue states Rudy will almost certainly win. They have lots of electoral votes. California is just icing. But the Dems can't win without the big industrial states, and Rudy will take those.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Yes, I am sure the Radical Islamists will bow to the US Constitution. (/sarc)
If Guiliani wins California, it's a landslide. Give me 54 Electorial votes that Shillary could take in California's place.
Ohio and Florida combined wouldn't be enough. They sure as heck aren't voting for that beast in Arkansas despite her philandering husband who promptly moved to New York after leaving the White House.
At that point it's checkmate. And you know what happens as a result? We'll probably get some NON-RINO Republicans elected to the House to tip the balance back in some marginal RAT districts. And possibly get the Senate back.
And then what happens? Even assuming Guliani is the anti-Christ and wants to grab your guns (which he doesn't), no guns get grabbed. You know why? There are more than enough pro-gun Republicans in the House to block any affront on the Second Amendment and a handful of non-tretcherous RATS who protect the Second Amendment. Same goes for gay marriage. Partial birth abortions, and pretty much ever other "evil" liberal agenda y'all love railing against Guiliani for.
Everyone keeps forgetting that there's that whole Legislative branch out there that can foil an alleged Guiliani "socially liberal" agenda.
I can't see Guiliani winning California without us getting the House back as a result.
"And Newt is NOT going to run. If he did, he would NOT beat Hillary, BTW."
Hey, you admit he can beat Giuliani. It's a start. Gingrich, in my opinion, is probably the only conservative who can stop the Giuliani/McCain dimwits from screwing this party over. Gingrich is second or third in the admittedly-meaningless polls now, that without having formed any committees or raised even so much as a single dollar. Gingrich needs to get in and save conservatives from Giuliani and McCain, it should be his patriotic duty.
So how much are you willing to sell for safety? Another piece of the Second Amendment?
"And you know what happens as a result? We'll probably get some NON-RINO Republicans elected to the House to tip the balance back in some marginal RAT districts. And possibly get the Senate back."
An excellent, logical post!
Not only do I have a very comprehensive working knowledge of history, I also know N.Y.C. history; political and otherwise. And unlike you, I also know and understand the difference between FACTS and cherry-picked, FREEPER made meaningless charts.
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