Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone
Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007
It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.
The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.
The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.
As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.
Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.
Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.
As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.
Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."
The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."
Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."
Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.
The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.
By at least being soemthing other than a mayor like a governor,congressman or senator perhaps?
I think that I am a knowledgeable, intelligent person; that's what I think of myself. :-)
I sure wish Mark Sanford would get into the race. He's a conservative who has the executive experience to mount a vigorous challenge to the current GOP frontrunners. I like Hunter on the issues, but he's a real longshot.
I agree that this is essentially irrelevant. I don't think you should call me a liar.
Keep laughing. Why are you so stuck on Rudy in Feb '07?
I think it doesnt matter what one was in the past. (Except for Barack Obama).
Yes I do. However, they are mostly ineffective because Hunter doesn't have the baggage that Guiliani has.
I haven't seen any McCain threads because nobody likes him or thinks he has a chance due the fact that he is a hot head and will blow up his own candidacy.
Well I'll try to clear it up for you, Mark. Let's just concentrate on one "social" issue: gun control. Gun grabbers who would disarm (or place gun control restrictions on) law-abiding citizens at any time are a dispicable and/or constitutionally ignorant lot, but those who would do so when Islamists with violent intentions are running rampant are vile/criminal beyond description. (Islamic terrorists aren't exclusively confined to the Middle East or other global hot spots; they exist among us here in the U.S. in numbers that would (unpleasantly) surprise many Americans).
What about "....shall not be infringed" do you and your RINO buddies not understand?
Dream on!! It ain't gonna happen! But if Hillary and Rudy do meet in the elections and Hillary wins, it sure won't be my fault. You're going to have to blame Rudy. He's the one who has to get the votes.
BEWARE!... Social-conservatives, Christian conservatives or moral-conservatives of ANY KIND..
********************* WE NEED TO UNITE IN OUR PURPOSE!!! ************************
WHO? I don't know, but here we are, in the middle of the Internet revolution, and yet, I feel as if someone, somewhere, is pulling the strings to elect a LEFTY 'Republican,' leaving us conservatives out of the loop and I DON'T LIKE IT!
Who is calling the shots here?... I guess special interest(s) with $$ MONEY $$, I "hear" it already, someone literally telling me, "Go, go little unimportant people, go home...Leave this to the EXPERTS. We the smart people will let you know when to vote.. go on, get lost! - LOL.
I believe Guliani's CONSULTANTS tactic is simply to DIVIDE the Republicans. To attract as many Lefty Republicans (I still don't get used to the label /s) by selling Mr. Guiliani as the CHAMPION OF NATIONAL SECURITY! to us, but I would not be surprised if we get a new batch of "converts" from the 'other side,' to push him over the top. Either I am paranoid but actually BELIEVE this "adoration," for this guy is orquestrated by some special interest out there. Just because, yes, He cleaned up N.Y. and acted with leadership on 9/11... Great as those things are, does not make him the Republican Presidential candidate by default...HARDLY!
And I should say, if he were a social-conservative (as DUNCAN is) THEN, I would be pulling hard for him!... But as it is... THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WILL VOTE FOR HIM!... Because if he gets elected, well, social-conservatives LOSE AND the LEFT WINS... That simple. All true social, Christian or Moral conservatives should above all, DENY our vote to the Left... And Rudy is the LEFT on social issues, and those are our issues.
So let's get excited about the challenge... Because I have this funny feeling that this maybe the first time THE PEOPLE will actually defeat the CONSULTANTES! :)
So Let's do it people. Let's show them we are not the dumb a*** they think we are :)
I'm with you.
If Sanford would jump in I'd have to change my allegiance.
I'll complain, because the Washington Republicans would have served up Rudy Giuliani, a man who is sure to fail.
I suspect if Sanford declared he'd be dead even with Giuliani within a couple weeks.
I don't disagree.
I just think the argument that Guiliani isn't an expert on defense or world affairs is weak: there are so many better arguments against him. . .
Here are a few sources to keep you all busy for a while. Let the Hunt begin
>> Go look at all of the threads about candidates, that were posted back then. [1999, 2000]
That's actually a very interesting suggestion. Is there a reasonably easy way to do it?
thx
The so-called "front-runners" are a product of the MSM and the moderate-wing of the GOP...
Get the votes? Of those (like you?) who sit at home to ensure Democrat victories while searching for the perfect mythical conservative?
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