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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: metalurgist

LOL..Could be, but it may explain why a wrestling site is supporting Rudy.

With him in office laws could be relaxed to allow them to butter up and wrestle naked in prime time. Once you throw away morality anything could be an option.


141 posted on 02/11/2007 2:36:02 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: beltfed308

How does a honcho of an oil company (and a self admitted - not even GOOD one at that) and the owner of a baseball team become a top military and world affairs expert?


142 posted on 02/11/2007 2:36:35 PM PST by merry10
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To: nopardons

A dem operative.


143 posted on 02/11/2007 2:37:20 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: beltfed308
How does a prosecutor end up being a top military and world affairs expert?

NOT by trying to get his inner-city police-state butt-buddy, goofball BERNARD K., selected to one of the highest national security-related posts in the land, that's for sure.

144 posted on 02/11/2007 2:37:25 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: metalurgist

HORSEFEATGHERS !

You don't see people roaring onto Hunter threads and spamming them, trying to engulf the with confligratory posts. OTOH, that is precisely what is being done to Rudy threads that are just news articles; not meaningless vanities, which are posted by the anti-Rudy contingency of FR.

Where are the anti-McCain vanities? Where are all the posts about him? THERE AREN'T ANY! Yet McCain is far more dreadful a prospective president than Rudy is.

WAH, WAH, YOURSELF!


145 posted on 02/11/2007 2:39:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: beltfed308

You appear to me. :-)


146 posted on 02/11/2007 2:40:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: merry10; nopardons; areafiftyone; Jim Robinson; All

Well, I guess I'll be going then.

It's been an interesting 6+ years.

Thank you, Mr. Robinson! I really did enjoy my time here.


147 posted on 02/11/2007 2:40:26 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: areafiftyone
Why don't you post some Duncan Hunter threads or some threads pertaining to your candidate? I don't see very many. Why is that?

There are some, but since the left-wing media and liberal poll-pushing pollsters are on YOUR side in this RINO-rudy LOVE-FEST, it's NO WONDER we don't have as many stories to post about TRUE CONSERVATIVES running for President.

Doesn't that make you RINO-rudy-Rooters question your choice of who "our" party should suppport?

148 posted on 02/11/2007 2:41:40 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: airborne

Excuse me. I was speaking for myself, not for FR.


149 posted on 02/11/2007 2:42:13 PM PST by merry10
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To: kinoxi

You post bilious canards, outright lies, personal attacks, and expect to be taken seriously? It is to laugh! LOL


150 posted on 02/11/2007 2:42:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Point out one lie.


151 posted on 02/11/2007 2:43:27 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: beltfed308
And if he picks his team like he did in NYC with his appointments I can see Sarah Brady as head of ATF?

But Hitlery will appoint a lot liberals lead by slick willie as heads of WTF?!?!

BTW, I have no info on the price of tea in China; Pandas, maybe. .

152 posted on 02/11/2007 2:43:30 PM PST by melancholy (The GOP nominee, whoever he is, will get my vote, period.)
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To: kinoxi
You are a DEM OPERATIVE?

Thank you for outing yourself. Now go back and tell whoever is paying you that you are failing.

153 posted on 02/11/2007 2:43:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Clintonfatigued
No one will be more determined to defeat the enemy.

EXCEPT, maybe Duncan Hunter, who, unlike RINO-rudy, is a TRUE CONSERVATIVE PATRIOT who served in the military, AND, has a son in the service now.

154 posted on 02/11/2007 2:44:56 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: nopardons

Say what you are typing out loud. What would you think of yourself?


155 posted on 02/11/2007 2:45:18 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: erton1
It is obvious that Rudy is the choice of about 30 times more conservatives than your candidate.

Didn't you see the FR poll a little while back?

Apparently, you didn't.

156 posted on 02/11/2007 2:46:17 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Steamburg

Take a pole? What size? What length? I'm confused.


157 posted on 02/11/2007 2:47:49 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: areafiftyone
As a Conservative first and Republican second, Rudy presents some irreconcilable differences for me.
Rudy                Duncan
---------------     -----------------------
Pro-abort           Pro-life
Gun grabber         Pro-2nd amendment
Pro-queer           Pro-traditional family
Pro-RINO            Conservative
Lots 'o baggage     Just a small carryon :)
Duncan Hunter is the ONLY declared conservative in the race.

Primaries are about philosophy, general elections are about parties.

There are FReepers on here trying to portray Rudy as a "conservative." In no way is Rudy a conservative. If elected there isn't a doubt in my mind that he would vigorously pursue the War On Terror. But his domestic policies, especially his social policies, would be a disaster for this country.

And for those who claim Duncan Hunter has no name recognition, let me remind you that Bill Clinton had no name recognition starting off either. It CAN be done. How 'bout, instead of complaining that Mr. Hunter has no name recognition or money, donating to his campaign and doing what you can to spread his name and conservative agenda.

158 posted on 02/11/2007 2:48:50 PM PST by upchuck (Wanted: Conservatives to go read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771175/posts)
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To: kinoxi
First of all, wearing a costume, in a play, skit, and/or a T.V. show doesn't make a person a "cross dresser". Yet, for day after day, week after week, month after month, that's all the anti-Rudy faction has been claiming; even after you have been told what each picture you post or talk about is from. I have repeatedly, as have others explained the long history of these shows/skits, from colonial times, forward.

SO many people have been sickened by your side's posts, that they are rushing to support Rudy! All of your efforts are having the exact OPPOSITE affect, than you desire. But you ( that's the plural case, BTW ) can't see it and continue to swarm onto Rudy threads and continue your childish behavior, instead of promoting a candidate.

Yes, presidential primary season is wild on FR, yes, lies and slander has been repeatedly posted, in the past. Wanna know WHO got it all in '99 and 2000? That would be now PRESIDENT BUSH. :-)

159 posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EGPWS
If you're willing to vote for a liberal RINO , like RINO-rudy, with the VAST MAJORITY of his positions being indistinguishable from left-wing demonRATS, then...

you are, indeed, befuddled.

160 posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:49 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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