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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
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Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: Zack Nguyen
Rudy got rid of porn theatres in Times Square.

His crack down on crime also got rid of the prostitutes there as well.

His new ADOPTION polices was responsible for many more adoptions and fewer abortions.

But none of that apparently matters to you, I guess.

121 posted on 02/11/2007 2:09:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: areafiftyone
I don't Hate Rudy.
He will not win the base of the Republican party.

I read the article and it reads like Liberal endorsement of any Liberal candidate.

Whereas they attempt to tell you how to think and what you really need by giving the appearance of the logical conclusion which if you were smart you would surely agree .

Why there is even a pyramid Wow!

I'm glad Rudy is good on crime and I'm glad he did good on taxes but his moral character and the trust of his desire to uphold the Constitution of the United States is a problem with many!

There is way to much time to just expect us to jump on board with all our compromises!

Republican party will make a BIG mistake if it decides to just take Conservative and Evangelicals for granted!
This is what they would be doing if they nominate Rudy.

Sorry for yelling but this is going to be a long election.

122 posted on 02/11/2007 2:10:22 PM PST by right way right (bummer. It's almost as bad as being born in a manger. You gotta start somewhere.( www.gohunter08.com)
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To: PatrickF4
'Just because abortion may never be illegal in my lifetime is no reason to stop fighting it. On the contrary, if we stop fighting it, it shows our cowardice in the face of legalized murder, and will make it all the more difficult to ever stop it..."
Abort it. More serious things, like the survival of the country, are at stake.
123 posted on 02/11/2007 2:10:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
When the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States met in Texas recently they underscored the deep ties and shared principles of the three countries.

Wow, sounds scary.

124 posted on 02/11/2007 2:13:12 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: beltfed308
And there have been PLENTY of anti-Rudy VANITIES posted to FR, in the NEWS section of FR, not to mention anti-Rudy stuff from blogs and blog sites! You've been on them and never, NOT ONCE, complained about those threads.
125 posted on 02/11/2007 2:13:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Which you people SPAM, add ridiculous words to, at the top of the thread, and try to ignite flame wars on.

WAH, WAH.

You just don't like it when someone parries your lies and myths.

To paraphrase an old Democrat: "I don't give them hell, I tell them the truth and they think it's hell."

126 posted on 02/11/2007 2:14:31 PM PST by metalurgist ("For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" No to Rudy)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
The REAL Rudy Record

From the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research:

"Even with the tax cuts of the last several years, New York remains by far the most heavily taxed big city in the country."

TAXES: Giuliani did cut the marginal city income tax rates, reducing taxes by some $2.0-billion from 1996-2001, but those cuts only offset the $1.8-billion increase in city income tax rates put in place by Mayor Dinkins a few years earlier. In the end, income taxes were actually cut by a modest $200-million. Freezing the 12.5% surcharge on high wage earners was good, but Giuliani didn't attempt to abolish that surcharge. Nor did Giuliani attempt to make serious permanent changes to the city income tax code. The primary reason Rudy and the City Council agreed to cut taxes, was to make NYCity more appealing to new businesses thinking about locating/relocating to the Big Apple. A smart move, however, Rudy left office with NYCity the highest taxed big city in America, with some of the highest income taxes, property taxes and utility rates in the entire nation.

GOVT SPENDING: From 1997 to 2001, spending under Giuliani went up 32%. More then double the rate of inflation. Rudy left NYCity with a $2.0 billion deficit and a $42-billion debt. Second largest debt after the federal government. Giuliani also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls. Increasing the membership of two major liberal organizations, the National Education Association (NEA) and the American Federation of Teachers (AFT).

"The scope of government was not reduced at all. The mayor abandoned his most visible initiative in this sphere—the proposed sale of the city hospital system—after a struggle with the unions and defeats in the courts. He did cut costs in social services; even before the new federal welfare reforms took effect in 1997, the city had begun to significantly reduce caseloads. But money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the city—from day care to virtually guaranteed housing—is as wide as ever.

"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficiently—not to make the city deliver fewer services. Gains in efficiency were offset, however, by a spike in the costs of outsourced contracts (see point 2 below). Thus, in two areas where inroads might have been made, the city instead failed to reduce spending."

"1. Personnel Increases. In 1995–96, the city entered into a series of collective bargaining agreements with its public-employee unions. In addition to granting pay increases that ended up roughly equaling inflation, the city promised not to lay off any workers for the life of the contracts. These agreements were expected to add $2.2 billion to the budget by fiscal 2001. But that estimate didn’t reckon with renewed growth in the number of city employees. After dipping in Giuliani’s first two years, the full-time headcount rose from 235,069, in June 1996 to over 253,000 by November 2000. Thanks largely to this growth in the workforce, the total increase in personnel service costs since 1995 has been $4 billion.

2. "Outsourced Services. The failure to shrink the scope of city government made it all the more imperative that Mayor Giuliani vastly increase its efficiency. In the attempt to increase productivity, the mayor farmed out some city services to private contractors. But as the number of outsourced contracts doubled under Giuliani, contractual expenses also nearly doubled—from $3 billion to $5.8 billion. While it may be argued that the city saved money by outsourcing these services, the net savings turned out to be marginal at best. In practice, outsourcing proved to be more of a bargaining chip in negotiations with unions than a serious means of pruning expenses."

Hard evidence that Rudy Giuliani was NO fiscal conservative. Another run-of-the-mill NYCity liberal.

127 posted on 02/11/2007 2:14:46 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: right way right

It will be Rudy vs. Hillary in 2008 if history is any indication. Bush and Gore were the frontrunners two years before the election.

And speaking as an Evangelical I support Rudy wholehartedly. (And Pat Robertson likes him too)

From October 1998
27 October 1998 Bush, Gore early frontrunners
In a CNN/USAToday/Gallup poll released today, Al Gore and George W. Bush were the overwhelming choices for the Democratic and Republican nominations for the presidency. The poll also showed that if the election were held today, Bush would defeat Gore 57-39 among all voters. The results:
Democrats

Al Gore 41%
Bill Bradley 15%
Dick Gephardt 14%
Jesse Jackson 11%
Bob Kerrey 4%
John Kerry 4%
Paul Wellstone 1%
Republicans

George W. Bush 39%
Elizabeth Dole 17%
Dan Quayle 12%
Steve Forbes 7%
Lamar Alexander 4%
John Ashcroft 4%
Newt Gingrich 4%
John Kasich 4%


128 posted on 02/11/2007 2:15:35 PM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (In 2008 Republicans will unite around Guiliani, McCain or Romney and whoop Hillary in a Landslide!!)
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To: melancholy

I never said it was not an acomplishment. If true. I have seen posts to the contrary. Again so what? The dims have been saying for years the same about clintoon. And the price of tea in china is what?


129 posted on 02/11/2007 2:15:52 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Salgak
Remember, the President runs a TEAM.

And if he picks his team like he did in NYC with his appointments I can see Sarah Brady as head of ATF?

130 posted on 02/11/2007 2:19:16 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: nopardons

Who's complaining?


131 posted on 02/11/2007 2:20:20 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

Well, I disagree with both you and Pat Robertson.


132 posted on 02/11/2007 2:23:17 PM PST by right way right (bummer. It's almost as bad as being born in a manger. You gotta start somewhere.( www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Salgak
Remember, the President runs a TEAM. It's the overall approach that matters

When you pick team members like Bernie Kerik, you show that you are wanting in the judgement department.

133 posted on 02/11/2007 2:25:10 PM PST by metalurgist ("For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" No to Rudy)
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To: areafiftyone
rudy giuliani Has Got What You Need...

IF you're a gun and 2nd Amendment-hating, abortion-supporting, illegal-loving liberal demonRAT or RINO.

134 posted on 02/11/2007 2:28:35 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: kinoxi
A class in reading comprehension 101 would do you a world of good. Go back and read, actually READ my post.
135 posted on 02/11/2007 2:31:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
Meatheadconservative35: "im voting for rudy"

Sorry, but if you are, in fact, going to vote for RINO-rudy, then I believe you are HEAVY on the "meathead", and LIGHT on the "conservative".

136 posted on 02/11/2007 2:31:48 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: areafiftyone
Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy.

Reminds me of the folks around here who claim we shouldn't worry about huge spending increases because the focus is on fighting terror. As though the president is totally incapable of dealing with more than one subject at a given time.

That kind of "logic" has never made any sense to me. There's no reason we can't fight terror, appoint strict constructionist judges, and protect gun rights at the same time.

137 posted on 02/11/2007 2:32:01 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: kinoxi

Yes, thank YOU for admitting what you and your side does. ;^)


138 posted on 02/11/2007 2:32:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: airborne

Hi -

I haven't been coming on, because as a Rudy supporter, it's disheartening to see the same spam constantly a few people ...to the point of calling posters liars, by the anti Rudy coalition. I think Jim R has made it clear on where he stands with Rudy Giuliani - and I appreciate that he is, while not supportive of Rudy, defintely allowing FR to be a place to disuss Rudy's candidacy.

So that's my perspective.


139 posted on 02/11/2007 2:34:10 PM PST by merry10
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To: nopardons
You promote a cross dressing, gun grabbing liberal. I try to be nice to you, this is what I get. Fine.

;) Rudy/Scum '08
140 posted on 02/11/2007 2:35:15 PM PST by kinoxi
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