Posted on 02/11/2007 10:13:28 AM PST by xmission
I can't for the life of me understand the fact that our leaders do not bring up the 500 mustard and sarin filled shells that have been found since entering Iraq.
Our guys just seem to fold. We have legitimate proof, but everyone caves on this... Why?
Even if you accept that they were no longer powerful enough to cause damage (which I don't), we have found WMDS.. period.
Is your list posted somewhere?
My son attended a training conference this past week. He works at a steel mill. Been there 6 years. There was a speaker there who cautioned them on melting any scrap that might contain radiation. Anytime a plant does so, or anything with radiation from scrap (due to it is an unknown source) is found, he has to research it. He used to be with the U.N. and has a low regard for them. He says he investigated over a hundred cases in Iraq and that there were WMD there, but before the conflict began it was all shipped to 3 countries: Iran, Syria, and Libya. He also added that you won't here about it in the news, even though it is a known fact.
No, just compiled into bookmark form. I intended to load it here on my FR homepage, but can't get it to upload. To add it as individual links would take me a week :)
I will keep trying though, or find a place off of FR where I can put it up, and update it.
IIRC, the original criticism of Bush was that he allowed Sadam to hide his WMD's via incompetent planning
Do any of you recall this?
An Iraqi general wrote a book about the movement of the materials to syria (as France and Germany were stalling us) right before we decided to go in. He says that Russian special forces were involved in the movements, in order to cover Russia's butt. There is a theory that Bush isn't pushing this, in order to save Russia from embarrassment.
Can you post some of the better ones for us?
The context of the presence of DMSO is what is important. In your labs, big deal, unless you normally have hundreds of gallons of it on hand.
Stored as part of a chemical process its presence is no more alarming than chlorine or ammonia.
Find it in a weapons bunker on an Iraqi air base amonst Defense Ministry chemical equipment and I think we have a difficulty saying that it was strictly industrial use.
I was in the classrooms before troops or others has the opportunity to ransack the place. There were abandoned uniforms and training article still in the rooms. There were other class rooms with cutaway traning aids for aircraft ordnance and other avaiation systems.
Anyway, it is all circumstantial at best I suppose.
I can't for the life of me understand why our leader doesn't bring up the 1.8 metric tonnes of enriched uranium, and the 500++ metric tonnes of yellow cake that was removed after the war. Not even a mention of the 100++ pounds of highly enriched uranium removed from the bombed reactor site. What gives?
The book "The Bomb In My Garden" went off like a dud, why no 60 minutes hour long interview with the writer, I don't understand.
Same reason that don't bring up Iraqi involvement in the OKC bombing.
I don't know that there is anything insidious here. I worked at a mill back in the mid 1990's and we routinely ran inbound billet through detectors.
It seems that it isn't uncommon for contaminated steel to be recycled instead of properly disposed of.
It wasn't a big deal back then, we just refused the truck and sent it back to the shipper.
The connection keeps resetting when trying to post (just tried to post some of it in this thread). There is a lot of useless HTML in the bookmark file, it could be because of this I suppose.
I'll see what I can do. It may mean an extensive hand editing session, but it will be worth it.
If you mean "chemical stashes", no....I mean actual weapons.
Sarin Gas and other substances in the Chemical Weapons world are often found in "binary" weapons....two liquids or other substances which are separated in the artillery shell or whatever which "mix" on impact.
I love the people who argue such armaments that WERE found were "degraded" and therefor "don't count".
I challenge anyone who believes THAT to take a whiff....!!!
Now, if you find a bunch of "dual use" or "precursor" chemicals in close proximity there' only ONE conclusion you can draw.
sheer luck. [if you're in the media or Democratic Party]
Selected Precursors for Chemical Weapons
* Thiodiglycol
* Phosphorus oxychloride
* Dimethyl methylphosphonate
* Methyl phosphonyl difluoride
* Methyl phosphonyl dichloride
* Dimethyl phosphite
* Phosphorus trichloride
* Trimethyl phosphite
* Thionyl chloride
* 3-Hydroxy-1-methylpiperidine
* N,N-Diisopropyl-2-aminoethyl chloride
* N,N-Diisopropyl-2-aminoethane thiol
* 3-Quinuclidinol
* Potassium fluoride
* 2-Chloroethanol
* Dimethylamine
* Diethyl ethylphosphonate
* Diethyl N,N-dimethylosphoramidate
* Diethyl phosphite
* Dimethylamine hydrochloride
* Ethyl phosphinyl dichloride
* Ethyl phosphonyl dichloride
* Ethyl phosphonyl difluoride
* Hydrogen fluoride
* Methyl benzilate
* Methyl phosphinyl dichloride
* N,N-Diisopropyl-2-amino-ethanol
* Pinacolyl alcohol
* O-Ethyl 2-diisopropylaminoethyl methylphosphonite
* Triethyl phosphite
* Arsenic trichloride
* Benzilic acid
* Diethyl methylphosphonite
* Dimethyl ethylphosphonate
* Ethyl phosphinyl difluoride
* Methyl phosphinyl difluoride
* 3-Quinuclidone
* Phosphorus pentachloride
* Pinacolone
* Cyanide salts
o Potassium cyanide
o Sodium cyanide
* Potassium bifluoride
* Ammonium bifluoride
* Sodium bifluoride
* Sodium fluoride
* Triethanolamine
* Phosphorus pentasulfide
* Diisopropylamine
* Diethylaminoethanol
* Sodium sulfide
* Sulfur monochloride
* Sulfur dichloride
* Triethanolamine hydrochloride
* N,N-Diisopropyl-2-aminoethyl
chloride hydrochloride
http://www.cbwinfo.com/Chemical/CWList.shtml
Iran: " We are surrounded by American weapons..............they can't hide from us now!!"
www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secrets-General-Survived-Hussein/dp/1591454042
How about dimethyl sulfate and chlorine stored just a few steps apart in a weapons bunker in Iraq?
jaynadavis.com
We had legitimate proof from Sadaam's own mouth when he said he had them but refused to provide proof that he'd destroyed them.
Hans Blix was also one who said that Iraq had them but found no proof they'd been destroyed...but also found no evidence of their existence...which started the whole brou-ha-ha about the US being in charge of going in and finding the WMD.
Wrong. The US Military did not go in to find the WMDs that had already been said to exist. All the time wasted listening to Sadaam's BS was spent by him to remove the WMDs and hide them elsewhere. Hide them in nations that we were reticent to accuse or go into to find them.
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