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Conservatives target Rudy
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| Feb 8 2007
| CRAIG GORDON
Posted on 02/08/2007 9:16:33 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: IslandJeff
Why?
Reagan didn't create the slogan, 11th commandment, and he didn't follow it in 1976 either. My screen name honors Reagan. That's it. Why you see fit to attack it in this manner is bizarre and uncalled for.
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:50:26 AM PST
by
Reagan Man
(Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
To: You Dirty Rats
"You can't win nationally with 35% of the vote and giving up the large coastal and upper midwestern states."
The states you allude to last voted Republican when Reagan was running. California voted for Bush senior by a hair in 1988. These aren't nominal Democratic states. Granted, some of it is fraud but Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan are liberal bastions, just like the nuts and wackos on the west coast. We have Obama, Turban Durbin, Stabenow, Feingold, Boxer, Feinstein, Murray, and Cantwell from those states, all fruitcakes. And you think we can win those states with a pseudo lib like Rudy running against a genuine socialist?? Those people vote like Pavlov's dog. They will reject Rudy and go for the genuine liberal every time. Arnold is a Hollywood aberration.
Rudy versus a lib still equals two libs. They couldn't even have a debate, because they'd agree on everything. No choice, no vote here. You like liberals, vote Democrat.
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:50:51 AM PST
by
Luke21
To: MadIvan
"Second, even if it is overturned, the Constitution is specific - the powers not enumerated in it are reserved for the states or the people, namely, it would come down to a state by state vote on the subject, unless, of course, you could get an anti-abortion amendment to the constitution."
I don't know if you've actually ever read our Constitution but you might want to take a look at Amendment V. which states, "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
The right to life is a fundamental right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. The killing of babies in the womb is contrary to our Constitution and therefore is a Federal, not a State, issue.
To: EternalVigilance
EternalVigilance wrote: "The science is as clear as it could possibly be: Human life begins at conception. DNA and all, you know."
You are absolutely right, but I wouldn't hold your breath. So far we haven't even been able to stop that partial birth murder thing. I'd pray for God's mercy, but He's already shown us far, far more than we deserve.
As for Rudy, he's pro-choice, pro-gay, and unwilling or unable to keep his vows to his spouse(s). That says a lot about the man's character, as opposed to a bunch of 9-11 photo ops.
To: You Dirty Rats
>> You can't win nationally with 35% of the vote and giving up the large coastal and upper midwestern states.
I bet you'll get a bigger swing of voters towards the Conservative rather than the moderate. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the Conservative vote were solid along the Coastal and North Eastern states. In my opinion, Republican voters are done with warbling media-star Republicans. It's getting more difficult for the moderate Republican to pass the smell test.
To: Blackirish
Does your mother know your still up?
Your arguments sound like a 10 year old.
Stupid comments and arguments that go in circles.
You are either not and adult or a DU troll trying to divide republicans
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:53:43 AM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: EternalVigilance
Which court is going to do that? The SCOTUS? NOW? Who is going to bring the law suit and HOW is it going to get all the way up to the SCOTUS and WHEN ( as in how long ) will THAT take?
To: Luke21
Rudy versus a lib still equals two libs. They couldn't even have a debate, because they'd agree on everything. No choice, no vote here. You like liberals, vote Democrat
Nonsense.....Hillary takes no red states ....Rudy grabs the purple...PA...FLA...NJ ...and with Arnold in the high 60's CA...Rudy crushes Hillary or Obama.Wins by 40 states.
To: Reagan Man
'84 campaign, I believe. Nothing to get defensive about.
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:55:57 AM PST
by
IslandJeff
(that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
To: nopardons
Which court is going to do that? A sane one?
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:56:20 AM PST
by
EternalVigilance
("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
To: EternalVigilance
When did you stop beating your children?
You know that I don't drink, but that's okay, EV; I suspect that you do. :-)
To: CitizenUSA
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:57:07 AM PST
by
EternalVigilance
("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
To: You Dirty Rats
My County, San Diego votes Republican.
The City of San Diego is the largest city in the U.S. that votes Republican.
We are the largest city with a Republican Mayor.
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:57:26 AM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: nopardons
Your posts could drive me to drink if anything could, you're right.
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:57:54 AM PST
by
EternalVigilance
("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
To: nopardons
This has become such a hostile atmosphere...E.V.and others overtly attack us. Why can't we just keep to the issues, not call others childish names?
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posted on
02/09/2007 12:59:13 AM PST
by
BonnieJ
To: My2Cents
With all the "great Americans" on this thread threatening to sit out the election, you're right.You see, as a Conservative American, I have made up my mind.
If Rudy and Hillary are both nominated (assuming opposing tickets), I am definitely not going to sit at home.
I am going to get off my butt, get out there, and vote against both of them.
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posted on
02/09/2007 1:00:13 AM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: You Dirty Rats
You Dirty Rats wrote: "Sorry, but the argument that all Republican candidates have to be conservative cuts no ice with me. "
Do you even read posts before responding? I mean, seriously...where did I say the candidate has to be conservative? You are most adept at beating down straw men.
I simply stated the candidate, IMO, must have broad appeal to the base (that includes moderates, or anyone else who consistently votes Republican). A staunch conservative isn't going to cut it any more than a moderate (liberal) guy like Rudy. Compromise doesn't mean you always get the guy you want while the rest of us suck it up, you know.
To: CitizenUSA
The GOP is NOT and NEVER has been THE Conservative Party.
America does NOT have a populace that is mostly Conservative.
In order to win elections, a candidate MUST appeal to more than just its base and I've got news for you, YOU are NOT the entire "base" of the GOP.
To: IslandJeff
>>>>>'84 campaign, I believe. Nothing to get defensive about.I don't read minds. Explain what you mean by "'84 campaign". I see no irony in my comment about the 11th commandment. Didn't I explain the history of that to you one late night on FR? Think so.
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posted on
02/09/2007 1:00:59 AM PST
by
Reagan Man
(Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
To: Reagan Man
"A recent Gallup Poll showed that nearly three-fourths of Republicans didn't know he favors civil unions for same-sex couples, and two-thirds didn't know he supports abortion rights."
Well, looks like we have our work cut out for us. Get the word out!
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posted on
02/09/2007 1:02:12 AM PST
by
Zeon Cowboy
("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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