Conservatives target Rudy

Newsday ^ | Feb 8 2007 | CRAIG GORDON

[Reagan Man]

WASHINGTON -- Eager to head off Rudolph Giuliani's recent gains in the polls, conservative activists this week strengthened their attacks, with some promising to step up their efforts on the Internet, talk radio and "below-the-radar" to discredit him going forward.

They are taking direct aim at one of Giuliani's strongest selling points, at least to some backers -- that he is the Republicans' best hope of stopping Hillary Rodham Clinton.

These critics argue that his nomination would prompt a conservative third-party candidate to join the race and split the GOP vote, clearing the way for Clinton's election.

"There's no way conservatives could stand for Giuliani becoming the Republican nominee," said Richard Viguerie, one of the founders of the modern conservative movement. "I guarantee whoever the Democrats nominate would be the next president."

~ship~

He backed off his earlier opposition to a ban on the medical procedure referred to as partial-birth abortion, and expressed support for gun owners' Second Amendment rights, even though as New York mayor he sued gun manufacturers and argued that more guns lead to more crime.

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So social conservatives -- for whom Giuliani's support for abortion rights, gun control and gay unions are anathema -- are speaking out. Some say they would use the tools at their disposal to tell voters about Giuliani's social stances.

Viguerie, a direct-mail pioneer, argued it no longer takes millions of mailings to make the case, thanks to talk radio, the Internet and other "below-the-radar" media.

Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Council, told a conservative radio host that Giuliani's positions are "far outside the mainstream of conservative thought ... Once people focus on this election and the candidates, Giuliani's lead will diminish."

[Reagan Man]

Last paragraph:

But other conservatives say Giuliani's strong poll standing is mainly driven by his popularity after 9/11. A recent Gallup Poll showed that nearly three-fourths of Republicans didn't know he favors civil unions for same-sex couples, and two-thirds didn't know he supports abortion rights.

[Reagan Man]

PING

[Atlas Sneezed]

What did Rudy actually DO after 9-11 that makes him so qualified to run the executive branch of the federal government?

Not doubting, just curious.

[Clemenza]

Lets see:

1. After eight years as Mayor, NY remained a high tax socialist hellhole. There goes his "fiscal conservative" bonafides.

2. Has a long history of questionable friends (Bernie Kerick, Ray Harding). There goes the "honesty" card.

3. Has a history of abandoning women when a new gal catches his eye. At least BC remained married. There goes the "moral integrity" card.

4. Lived with two gay roomates after divorce. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

5. Is on the record CONDEMNING the 1996 immigration reforms and Prop 187, stating that "NY thrives because of immigrants, documented and UNdocumented. There goes the "securing our borders card."

6. Has a history of being vehemently anti-gun, claiming that the 2nd amendment allows for "reasonable regulation." Of course, this is fitting for a law and order fetishist.

7. The last point illustrates that he has little understanding of "original intent."

8. Pro-abortion.

9. Governed a city where the majority of inhabitants are either effete yuppies, third world immigrants, or the children of the latter. There goes the "I am an American" card.

10. Has said NOTHING about foreign policy, other than superficial sound bites and Likud Party talking points (plagiarist!). So much for "Mr. National Security."

12. Had VERY low approval ratings until 9/11 happenned, due to a lack of ethics, and clumsy handling of police shootings. There goes the "competance" card.

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Conservatives targeting Rudy....Seeing as he's not conservative I see no problem with that.

[goldstategop]

Rudy Guiliani IS tough on crime and terrorism. If that's all it was, he would be preferable to ANY Democrat. But that's only half the story. His liberal soocial views put him outside the Republican mainstream.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Dreagon]

Guiliani can NOT beat Hillary. Conservatives will prefer their liberal president to be a Democrat, and will sit home if offered nothing but a choice between two liberals.

[Reagan Man]

What happened to #11. Otherwise its a good start.

I think #1 is critcal.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Guiliani can NOT beat Hillary. Conservatives will prefer their liberal president to be a Democrat, and will sit home if offered nothing but a choice between two liberals.

If you're right, that is supremely dumb of "conservatives".

P.S. I don't think you're right.

[JSDude1]

That's something worth saying Reagan Man!

[Beagle8U]

I've been working the get out the vote effort for the RNC for years. I don't know one single voter I could get to the polls for this turd.

I'll just have to spend my efforts in the primary for someone else that can keep him out. Because if he gets the nomination I'll cast my one write-in vote and be done for the day.

[JSDude1]

Or at least won't "get out" the vote; aka work hard for him, which is what the Republican nominee needs..

[msnimje]

I can't vote for him because his wife spells her name with an "i"...Judi.

[NapkinUser]

I'm not shocked at all so many republicans are ignorant of Giuliani's leftist political views. When the primaries really get going, and it moves beyond the name part of the race, a lot of Giuliani fans are in for a surprise when their sure winner sinks like the titanic in the republican primary.

Giuliani is the most left-wing viable republican candidate ever. And now Sean Hannity is cheerleading for him. It's going to be tough, but I feel much more confident in "the field" than Giuliani.

Any republican but Giuliani or Hagel in 2008!

[Beagle8U]

"Any republican but Giuliani or Hagel in 2008!"

I have to add McCain to your list.

[zarf]

Governed a city where the majority of inhabitants are either effete yuppies, third world immigrants, or the children of the latter. There goes the "I am an American" card.

How's that cabin in the hills doin' for you? Kill any Mexicans lately?

[A6M3]

The best way to fight off Rudy is for the conservatives to put up a candidate that can beat the leading democrat. If they can't, then someone worse than Rudy, will become president. This is the reality of the situation.

[Nephi]

13. He endorsed John McCain in '00

Rudy should be honest and run as a Democrat.

[narses]

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Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
Rudy Giuliani

[narses]

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment not one of them was a Republican.

All of his judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.


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