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Conservatives target Rudy
Newsday ^ | Feb 8 2007 | CRAIG GORDON

Posted on 02/08/2007 9:16:33 PM PST by Reagan Man

WASHINGTON -- Eager to head off Rudolph Giuliani's recent gains in the polls, conservative activists this week strengthened their attacks, with some promising to step up their efforts on the Internet, talk radio and "below-the-radar" to discredit him going forward.

They are taking direct aim at one of Giuliani's strongest selling points, at least to some backers -- that he is the Republicans' best hope of stopping Hillary Rodham Clinton.

These critics argue that his nomination would prompt a conservative third-party candidate to join the race and split the GOP vote, clearing the way for Clinton's election.

"There's no way conservatives could stand for Giuliani becoming the Republican nominee," said Richard Viguerie, one of the founders of the modern conservative movement. "I guarantee whoever the Democrats nominate would be the next president."

~ship~

He backed off his earlier opposition to a ban on the medical procedure referred to as partial-birth abortion, and expressed support for gun owners' Second Amendment rights, even though as New York mayor he sued gun manufacturers and argued that more guns lead to more crime.

~snip~

So social conservatives -- for whom Giuliani's support for abortion rights, gun control and gay unions are anathema -- are speaking out. Some say they would use the tools at their disposal to tell voters about Giuliani's social stances.

Viguerie, a direct-mail pioneer, argued it no longer takes millions of mailings to make the case, thanks to talk radio, the Internet and other "below-the-radar" media.

Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Council, told a conservative radio host that Giuliani's positions are "far outside the mainstream of conservative thought ... Once people focus on this election and the candidates, Giuliani's lead will diminish."

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To: EternalVigilance
Don't believe the lying polls. They're meaningless this far out. A simple expression of name identification. Nothing more. Rudy Giuliani will not be the nominee of the GOP. But if he is, it's far worse than you think. The GOP will cease to exist as a viable national political party.

Actually it will become stronger as Rudy brings back areas of the country that have left the Republican Party and some of the extreme elements on the Right go off and support Tancredo or Paul or some other wingnut.

141 posted on 02/09/2007 12:16:30 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: IslandJeff

Good post - - thanks for that.

Regards,
LH


142 posted on 02/09/2007 12:16:57 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Blackirish

Hunter as Chairman of the Armed Services Comm is not the backbencher.

Also when you can't write his name correctly it tells me you as a purist and unappeaseable will not support the republican candidate.

Grow up.


143 posted on 02/09/2007 12:18:45 AM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: television is just wrong

It happens. The perfect is not the enemy of the good (Arnold, however, is making me somewhat circumspect), and half a loaf is still better than none, regardless.

Hang in there.


144 posted on 02/09/2007 12:19:06 AM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: upsdriver
It's fairly sad that a British person has to point this out to you, but there are several obstacles to overturning Roe vs. Wade. Firstly, the Supreme Court hasn't overturned it yet; note, it's the Supreme Court, not the President, who does that. Second, even if it is overturned, the Constitution is specific - the powers not enumerated in it are reserved for the states or the people, namely, it would come down to a state by state vote on the subject, unless, of course, you could get an anti-abortion amendment to the constitution.

Unless a Supreme Court justice dies, Rudy has no effect on the first item - he has already said he would appoint judges like Roberts and Alito. The second item, he has no effect on at all.

The President is not a King. But then again, strange a British person has to remind you of that...but obviously the spleen is not an organ for thinking.

Ivan

145 posted on 02/09/2007 12:19:23 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

You really are full of so many wrong assumptions that I don't always know where to start. So, I'll ask you a question: Where did you get the idea that I support Duncan Hunter?


146 posted on 02/09/2007 12:19:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance
Fine, who do you support then?

Ivan

147 posted on 02/09/2007 12:20:37 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: SoCalPol

What is it? Huntin or Dunkin...sorry no one even knows his name.


148 posted on 02/09/2007 12:20:58 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: MadIvan

After losing the House and having two Republican members go to jail I cannot think of a worse position from which to run for President in 2008 than a long-term Republican Congresscritter who was never in the leadership. Duncan Hunter has about as much chance of winning the nomination as Rachel Hunter.


149 posted on 02/09/2007 12:21:45 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: BonnieJ
Yes, I was here and somehow managed to live through that WAR.

Yes, it was THAT divided and vile and nasty; just a bit later into everything, than now. The garbage, posted against now President Bush and his supporters began in '99. The same people who are against Rudy, who survived the very late in the day purges, were virulently against W back then.

There were several factions...those who favored Pat Buchanan, those for Alan Keyes, and the Libertarians............all ganging up against now President Bush and his supporters.

And there were NO Mods here in '99, so you can only try to imagine what THAT was like; you'll never come close to really being able to imagine that!

150 posted on 02/09/2007 12:22:16 AM PST by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
Second, even if it is overturned, the Constitution is specific - the powers not enumerated in it are reserved for the states or the people, namely, it would come down to a state by state vote on the subject, unless, of course, you could get an anti-abortion amendment to the constitution.

Oh Lord. Being preached to by a Brit on the American Constitution. It's really too late at night for this. But, here's your answer anyway: The Court could rule that the child in the womb is a person (which they are, of course) leaving them protected by the words of the Preamble and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Bingo. Problem solved.

151 posted on 02/09/2007 12:22:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't believe the lying polls. They're meaningless this far out. A simple expression of name identification. Nothing more.




Whistling by the graveyard.....EV and you know it.
152 posted on 02/09/2007 12:24:01 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: SoCalPol

Hunter is still Chairman? Really? I thought he was replaced by a 'rat.


153 posted on 02/09/2007 12:24:11 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: MadIvan

None of your business. But I assure you, it won't be someone who supports all of the immoral positions of the Democrat Party, and none of the important provisions of the Reagan platform of the GOP, like Rudy Giuliani.


154 posted on 02/09/2007 12:24:40 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance
Santorum is a RINO?

Allen is a RINO?

I guess that Graf is a RINO too?

Should I continue? And yes, I know that I'm not naming all House members. :-)

155 posted on 02/09/2007 12:24:57 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You're drinking again, aren't you.


156 posted on 02/09/2007 12:25:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: EternalVigilance
The Court could rule that the child in the womb is a person (which they are, of course) leaving them protected by the words of the Preamble and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Bingo. Problem solved.

"My dear guests, I am Mr. Roark, your host. Welcome to Fantasy Island!!"

157 posted on 02/09/2007 12:25:54 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Reagan Man
You blame President Bush?

Oh never mind, you always blame him for EVERYTHING!

158 posted on 02/09/2007 12:26:06 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Blackirish
Whistling by the graveyard.....EV and you know it.

If I am, it's where RINOs like you want to bury the Grand Old Party.

159 posted on 02/09/2007 12:26:34 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: epow
"I would dearly love to vote for a conservative, pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, anti-illegal immigration Republican nominee"

I'm a lost cause. I have reached the point where I don't give a hoot what party the candidates claim. I want a president that embraces all you expressed, and would be pleased as heck to see a well deserved A for American tacked to his name. Tom Tancredo would fit the bill, but he is little known across the nation.
160 posted on 02/09/2007 12:26:49 AM PST by backtothestreets
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