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English-only Cheesesteak Fight Continues (Geno's)
Centre Daily ^ | 2/9/2007 | Patrick Walters

Posted on 02/08/2007 7:47:54 AM PST by Pyro7480

English-only cheesesteak fight continues

By PATRICK WALTERS
Associated Pres

The battle over an English-only ordering policy at one of Philadelphia's signature cheesesteak joints is apparently far from over.

The city's human relations commission found evidence that the owner of Geno's Steaks may have discriminated against immigrants by posting a sign telling customers, "This is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,' " according to a letter sent to owner Joe Vento last week.

Vento's attorneys had hoped the matter would be dropped, but the commission said in the Jan. 31 letter that it found probable cause that discrimination occurred and was moving forward with the case. The commission also suggested that the matter could be resolved through mediation.

Vento's legal team would not rule out some sort of mediation, but they said Vento, the fiery grandson of Italian immigrants, would not take the sign down.

"Any effort to save the resources of taxpayer-funded government is a good idea, but not at the cost of free speech," said Todd Young, policy director for Atlanta-based Southeastern Legal Foundation, a public interest law firm that has joined the case.

After extensive publicity over the sign in June, the commission began investigating whether Vento was violating the city's Fair Practices Ordinance. That law prohibits discrimination in employment, public accommodation and housing on the basis of race, ethnicity or sexual orientation.

Vento and his attorneys maintain that no one has ever been turned away at the South Philadelphia shop. Geno's, along with bitter cross-street rival Pat's King of Steaks, forms the epicenter of an area often described as ground zero for cheesesteaks.

"They could have found out in one day that nobody has ever been refused service," Vento said Wednesday.

Albert Weiss, Vento's Philadelphia attorney, said he was shocked that the city was not dropping the case because he hadn't heard from anyone in weeks.

"I felt they were just letting it die a quiet death," Weiss said.

A message left with the human relations commission was not immediately returned Wednesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cheesesteak; english; genos; philly
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To: Jaded

These "human rights commissions" are full of leftists and are tools of the left. From the left's standpoint, it is not a waste of time and money to go after this cheesesteak place. By doing so, the left sends a message to many, many other people that they are no longer free and must not dare to act as if they are -- a good day's work for these tyrants. Dismissing such things as a waste of time, a joke, etc., is a losing response. We need to wake up and smell the coffee. Little things add up and before we know it, we're slaves.


101 posted on 02/08/2007 11:27:53 AM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Now, I'm a Texan, and as such my meat sensibilities are far more honed toward BBQ and tamales . . . but what I have experienced of cheesesteak sandwiches suggests that the "steak" part of the title is relatively accurate.

That given - at the very least, that the steak in cheesesteak is decent meat - why the HELL would anyone pollute it with the abomination that is Cheez Whiz?


102 posted on 02/08/2007 11:30:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: magslinger
Maybe we should try running a conservative. It worked in '80, maybe it'll work again.

You weirdo. Where do you get such outlandish ideas? ;p
103 posted on 02/08/2007 11:34:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Speak and write English. Eat hoagies. Stop the stoppage of assimilation in our nation. Stand up against illegal immigration, stand for English as the National lingo. Stand against Mexifornia.


104 posted on 02/08/2007 11:44:28 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Xenalyte

An excellent question, my Texas friend.

Should you ever make it to Geno's, you'll be happy to know that you can order or cheesesteak made with American or Provolone, as well.

(Amazingly Cheez Wiz, though an abomination in or on all other things, works better than you'd think on a cheesesteak. Geno's is open 24 hours, so another key may be going there at 3 or 4 in the morning.)


105 posted on 02/08/2007 11:59:29 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Provolone it'll have to be, then, because despite the name, American cheese is not cheese. :)

But if you say that the Whiz is worth the taste, I will take your word for it when the opportunity arises, since you are clearly better-versed in the subject than I.

(Dammit, now I want a cheesesteak.)


106 posted on 02/08/2007 12:11:20 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: 70th Division; Liz; Howlin
I hope Vento gets to talk to the City Officials. And I hope he talks to them totally in Italian. That will show them.

Geno's should be defended by a German lawyer, an Italian lawyer, a Jewish lawyer, a Russian lawyer and a Spanish lawyer. Watch how the judge and prosecutor complain that they can't understand the defense...

107 posted on 02/08/2007 4:02:40 PM PST by Libloather (Ever notice how 18 wheelers, which transport food & clothes, are NEVER blamed for global warming?)
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To: Chickensoup
"In MA, a Dentist is required (sit down for this) to PAY for an interpreter for a patient. "
 
IS THERE A SOURCE FOR THAT ASSERTION?
 
I TOTALLY BELIEVE IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE INFO WITH A FEW FRIENDS.
 
Sorry for shouting, my caps lock was stuck for a bit, and I'm too lazy and busy to retype it.

108 posted on 02/08/2007 4:13:16 PM PST by Radix (Al would be gored in a presidential campaign............)
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To: Libloather

Prosecutors would ask the judge to tell his multi-language defense: "This is America---speak English only." LOL.


109 posted on 02/08/2007 5:26:14 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Radix

Go into any public hospital emergency room and you will see the listing of interperters and interpitive languages available.




http://publichealth.drexel.edu/CHE/SiteData/docs/CLAS_action/041d9e5752b13f0dc10d2d2218d6aa5e/CLAS_action.pdf

JCACO standards.


110 posted on 02/08/2007 6:08:12 PM PST by Chickensoup (WE are the media....The New Media.)
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To: Pyro7480

bump


111 posted on 02/09/2007 6:33:40 AM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: Pyro7480

bump


112 posted on 02/09/2007 6:33:43 AM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: -YYZ-

>> 1,000 year-old egg? <<

Insert your own Hillary Clinton joke here.


113 posted on 02/09/2007 9:14:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: CPOSharky
The sign says "PLEASE" doesn't it.

No, it doesn't. The article is wrong.
I have seen photos of the sign with Mr. Vento standing next to it.
The word "please" is not on the sign.

114 posted on 02/11/2007 4:30:29 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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