Posted on 02/06/2007 4:03:31 PM PST by wagglebee
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-life advocate says he thinks Rudy Giuliani is too pro-abortion to deserve support form the overwhelming majority of Republican voters who are pro-life. Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, says he doesn't think the former New York mayor will be able to capture the party's nod.
Giuliani moved another step closer to a full-fledged candidacy on Monday by filing a statement of candidacy and removing the words "testing the waters" from his exploratory committee papers.
He has a high standing the polls both nationally and in early primary states such as Iowa and New Hampshire but Perkins says that's simply because of his high name identification.
"At this point most people have no idea where candidates stand on the issues, the polls simply reflect name ID," Perkins told CBN.
"Giuliani is known for his impressive leadership in the wake of 9/11, but most pro-family Americans do not yet realize how far outside of the mainstream of conservative thought that Mayor Giuliani social views really are," Perkins added. "Once people focus on this election and the candidates Giuliani's lead will diminish."
Should Giuliani get the party's nod for president, Perkins said it would likely hand the White House over to the Democratic candidate because pro-life voters would have no one to support.
The last several elections have been between pro-life Republican and pro-life Democratic candidates and a Giuliani nomination would change that dynamic.
"If by some chance Giuliani were to gain the Republican nomination it would set up a very similar scenario that we had last November," Perkins told CBN. "A unenthusiastic Republican base which will suppress turnout and set up a Democratic victory."
Republican voters have previously turned away pro-abortion candidates from capturing the primary nod, including former California Gov. Pete Wilson and Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter. Republicans haven't had a pro-abortion nominee since Gerald Ford in 1976.
When asked to respond to social issues on CNN's Inside Politics in a 1999 interview, Giuliani replied, "I'm pro-choice."
In the same CNN interview he also indicated he does not support even a modest ban on the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure saying, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Giuliani also indicated he would have upheld President Clinton's veto of the partial-birth abortion ban.
"Yes. I said I then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it," he told the New York Times in November 1999.
The former mayor also backs embryonic stem cell research, which pro-life groups oppose because it requires the destruction of human life to obtain the stem cells.
Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney are the top two candidates in the polls apart from Giuliani.
Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee are also running and drawing significant support from the pro-life community.
Other potential Republican candidates include pro-life former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, pro-life Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, pro-life Reps. Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, and former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson.
But I think he will take the nomination because of security. And he is the only one who could be Hitlery.
Bill Clinton as President of the United States, abortions went down in NYC and the rest of the country.
I was working in NYC back then I guess I can take credit also.
My e-mail wasn't to you directly, or wasn't meant to be, anyway, but more a question to the general thread.
But I'm like you. I make up my own mind and don't need other endorsements to validate what I already feel or know about an individual.
"Why is everyone so worried about him, then?"
Nobody is worried about him. Pointing out his positions on the issues will keep him from the nomination.
"And he is the only one who could be Hitlery."
Hope you meant BEAT hitlery.
The dems. are behind a lot of these stories as they are scared he will beat Hillary.
A female President, for example, would have tremendous power to change the minds of the scores of women who support it.
If you put any creedence in what Pat Robertson says, you've got bigger problems that supporting Rudy.
While I hesitate to even post on this thread, I am doing so. I won't respond to any Rudy haters, so don't waste an attack on me.
I am very staunchly pro-life and I "want" my president to believe the same.
I also am strongly against anything that promotes or "normalizes" the homosexual lifestyle.
All that said..............the thing that frightens me most at this point in time is terrorism. If Hillary Clinton is elected, God help us all. I also believe that, like it or not, she will be hard to beat. I think Guiliani is one candidate that very well could.
I may not like any of his liberal views but I think I might sleep better at night with him in the White House instead of Hillary. If we don't have a president the terrorists fear, we can forget all the other issues that matter. OTOH, if we can manage to stem terrorism to a decent degree, we might survive to fight the other wrongs of society, i.e. abortion, homosexuality, etc.
A total non-sequit.
Unlike it is for some, the GOP does not form my ideals, but those ideals are more closely matched by the GOP. When it ceases to do so, and it will with expecting I vote for JulieAnnie, I'll look elsewhere and leave the GOP to fend without my support..
Giuliani taking credit for abortions going down in NYC (at a time that they were going down period) is like me taking credit for coaching the Colts to victory Sunday night because I watched them on TV.
I agree with every word you said. Thanks for posting. I know people don't want to because the threads turn so ugly, so our freepmails are filled with support and I do appreciate your posting on the open forum such a sensible outlook.
I think it fits like a glove.
And I side with Tony Perkins.
Should Giuliani get the party's nod for president, Perkins said it would likely hand the White House over to the Democratic candidate because pro-life voters would have no one to support.
"If by some chance Giuliani were to gain the Republican nomination it would set up a very similar scenario that we had last November," Perkins told CBN. "A unenthusiastic Republican base which will suppress turnout and set up a Democratic victory."
I can smypathize with your statement. My point was to try and take abortion legislation off the table and to look at it purely from a moral/ethical standpoint.
For example if Rudy was running for township supervisor, a position that likely has nothing to do with abortion whatsoever, he is still unfit to hold the position based on his support of abortion, thus demostrating a complete lack of morality.
Wow. That's really telling. You know what, I'm getting the feeling that you and your ilk have come to the conclusion that those of us who are supporting Rudy will bow down to threats and extortion, which are escalating btw. At first it started with threats to go 3rd party, now it's become threats to vote Democrat. What are you going to do if we stoop to your level and promise to vote Democrat if whoever it is you're supporting gets the nod?
"our mayor and some other notables dressed in drag to raise money for charity."
Harmless & hilarious or not, the rest of the world will not share your view. I do not want a figurehead for America that reflects poorly on all of us.
the item about the NYC judges has already been explained. you need to examine how the appointment system works here.
does Arlen Spector think Roe is settled law? why was he working so hard to get Roberts and Alito onto the SCOTUS?
Thanks...that's my belief.
When the GOP moves to embrace Rudy, it'll be demanding I vote against the beliefs that make me who/what I am for THEIR candidate of abortion, SSM, gun control, government intrusion. I won't do that - not while I have my own presence of mind.
Without the right to life, all other rights are meaningless!
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