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Vanity: The ultimate harm of betraying traditional American Judeo-Christian values

Posted on 02/05/2007 4:55:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson

When the members of the Republican party betray the sound conservative principles of its founders and its own longstanding party platform and then vote in a leader whose personal beliefs and public record are more in line with those of the degenerate socialist Democrat party, then obviously the Republican party is sliding to the left. When large numbers of the members of a conservative party enthusiastically (you might even say overzealously or militantly) campaign for a social liberal and against sound conservative principles and candidates, then they are pushing the conservative principles, conservative candidates and conservative members out the exit doors.

Should the large number of members militantly campaigning for a socialist liberal for the presidency win out, and the only choices presented to the electorate by the two major political parties both share identical immoral socialist liberal ideologies, and the voter is left with voting for a socialist or a socialist, then obviously the resultant elected government will be a socialist government.

When the Republican Party abandons its conservative principles and abandons its fight against encroaching socialism, then obviously it is no longer a conservative party and we no longer have a major party fighting for traditional American values and against socialism.

When the American people abandon their longstanding traditional conservative family values and instead openly embrace socialism and perverted lifestyles, then America has moved left and is obviously no longer a traditional conservative nation.

When and if the American people abandon their traditional Judeo-Christian morality and traditional American conservative values, and instead opt for corrupt godless liberal/socialist immorality and perversion as the norm, then obviously America will have lost its way.

America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Founding Fathers warned us that our style of Republican government would only work for a moral society. When and if we as a nation turn our backs on God and the nation abandons our American traditional Judeo-Christian morals and values, and rampant godless socialism takes over, the America of our Founders ceases to exist.

You can spin it, twist it, deny it, make a million excuses and logical explanations for why electing a social liberal at this time is a good idea, but you cannot deny the simple truth. A social liberal is a liberal and liberals begat liberalism. Liberalism begats socialism. Our nation was founded on the self-evident truth that our unalienable rights come from God. Socialists deny God exists. Socialists say our rights come from men in government robes. What men in government robes give, other men in government robes can take away. Without God we have no unalienable rights. No unalienable rights means no freedom. No freedom means no America.


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To: alicewonders

Indeed.

And it is lock stock and barrel part of the goal of the globalist traitors to reduce the world's population to 500,000,000 by many means available.


221 posted on 02/06/2007 7:20:47 AM PST by Quix (WHEN IT COMES TO UFO'S TRY ABOVETOPSECRET.COM TO LEARN A LITTLE 1ST THEN POST)
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To: Jim Robinson
Great vanity Jim, but sadly one that won't be taken well.

This is your house, and more and more people here on FR are DEMANDING that the GOP move left to be more "electable", and jettison any social religious conservatives that stand in the way.

As things stand right now, the choices in 2008 will be a social and fiscal liberal versus a social and fiscal liberal. The only difference is the methods.
223 posted on 02/06/2007 7:30:06 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Hildy
DO WHAT YOU WANT. But if a Dem is elected, I don't want to see you on this forum bitching and moaning. I will be keeping a list of the people who say they won't be voting for the Republican.

I'll bitch & moan if I want to. Bitch about the Republicans blowing it again. If they're going to turn into dumbocrats - I won't be a part of it.

224 posted on 02/06/2007 7:30:33 AM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President - 2008!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Morning Jim :)

I would guess that you are talking about voting for Rudy Guiliani, when you say voting for a social liberal will be the death knell for our America.

I happened to watch Sean Hannity interview Rudy last night. I paid strict attention to his views on abortion. It sounds like he'd leave it up to the Supremes to overturn Roe vs Wade, and return the issue to the states. On the 2nd Amendment, he is for it, but with "restrictions". I'd like to know what those might be. As for the war, Rudy is strong in his support. I like that.

My mom, like many posters here, abided by the abortion litmus test. So did I. I voted for Ross Perot, and got Clinton. I voted for Pat Buchanan, and got four more years of Clinton. I won't make that mistake again! If Hellery gets elected, it just might be the last election the American people can vote in. You might not like Rudy's position on several important issues, but the Beast is the devil incarnate. Rudy is the only one who can beat her and Barrak Obama, imo.


225 posted on 02/06/2007 8:16:49 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
My mom, like many posters here, abided by the abortion litmus test. So did I. I voted for Ross Perot

Perot was and is pro-death. His wife was a Planned Barrenhood board member.

So, if you thought Perot was pro-life in any way, you were deceived.

226 posted on 02/06/2007 8:47:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It sounds like he'd leave it up to the Supremes to overturn Roe vs Wade, and return the issue to the states.

In other words, he's using weasel words to try and fool naive pro-life voters, while not budging one inch on his completely pro-death, abortion-on-demand position.

Another thing. Don't be deceived by the return-it-to-the states confederate position on abortion. The God-given, unalienable right to life came from God, not from man...not even from our inspired founding documents. However, our founding documents do protect them, if you'll bother to read them carefully. Read the Preamble to the Constitution, and think about it very carefully, paying very close attention to the meaning of the word "posterity." Unborn Americans are due the exact same rights as me or you.

227 posted on 02/06/2007 8:54:10 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

If Hellery gets elected, it just might be the last election the American people can vote in.
= = =

She knows that and is planning on that, hoping for that, determined to make that true, imho.

And thinks she has the wholesale puppet masters' backing to achieve that, imho.

and well she might.


228 posted on 02/06/2007 10:04:12 AM PST by Quix (WHEN IT COMES TO UFO'S TRY ABOVETOPSECRET.COM TO LEARN A LITTLE 1ST THEN POST)
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To: gcruse; Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance
And being culturally liberal has precisely nothing to do with being a socialist.

Actually, it does, because the social/cultural liberal denies the existence and rule of Almighty God, which is the very foundation of Socialism leading to Communism.

As Jim Robinson so well put it:

A social liberal is a liberal and liberals begat liberalism. Liberalism begats socialism. Our nation was founded on the self-evident truth that our unalienable rights come from God. Socialists deny God exists. Socialists say our rights come from men in government robes. What men in government robes give, other men in government robes can take away. Without God we have no unalienable rights. No unalienable rights means no freedom. No freedom means no America.

EternalVigilance at #147 posted well the words of Signer John Witherspoon:

"Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country."

I can't thank you enough, Jim Robinson, for your essay and all your following comments. I am so thankful for you, and pray that our Gracious Giving God will raise up many more men just like you, and keep you blessed with such wisdom as you displayed throughout this entire thread.

229 posted on 02/06/2007 10:59:56 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

"Actually, it does, because the social/cultural liberal denies the existence and rule of Almighty God, which is the very foundation of Socialism leading to Communism."

I am a socially liberal atheist/libertarian. Libertarianism is the very antithesis of communism. I'm probably less of a socialist than you, because I don't believe the state should be interfering in many areas that the religious right wants controlled by government.


230 posted on 02/06/2007 11:07:35 AM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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231 posted on 02/06/2007 11:39:10 AM PST by cgk (Republicanism didn't make Conservatives a majority. Conservatism made Republicans a majority. [NEWT])
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, I guess I was deceived about Perot. It must have been those damn flow charts :/


232 posted on 02/06/2007 12:35:47 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I hate to break it to you, but they all use weasel words. Remember when Gore was pro life, then turned pro abortion when he realized it would further his political career?

Guiliani may be many things, but he's not a weasel. You might like what he has to say, but at least he doesn't stick his finger in the air, wondering which way the wind blows.


233 posted on 02/06/2007 12:51:35 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: Quix

We're living in frightening times, FRiend...


234 posted on 02/06/2007 12:52:56 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: Jim Robinson
A noble attempt to steer this site back towards the purpose it was originally intended to serve.

I'm afraid the 'reasonable moderates' who've come to dominate here will not go quietly however.

235 posted on 02/06/2007 4:58:40 PM PST by skeeter
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To: gotribe
I'm all for a third party

See the Green Party for an example of political third party might. LOL!!!

236 posted on 02/06/2007 5:25:24 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

I think there are more true conservatives in the country than far left wackos.


237 posted on 02/06/2007 5:40:18 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump.


238 posted on 02/06/2007 9:53:25 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Hildy
If it's a Rudy vs. Hillary race, I'll proudly cast my vote for the conservative Constitution Party candidate. You know what? So will millions of others. The Constitution Party will get enough votes to get federal funding and become a force on the national scene. If you don't believe that this can happen, you clearly don't remember the Reform party and a guy named Perot. The reason I will is very simple:

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."
-Rudy Giuliani


Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani
Wayne Barrett.

6 months ago, I joined the United States Army Reserve. In another two years, I'll be volunteering to be sent to a theater. I didn't do that to see either Rudy OR Hillary turn this nation into something so unrecognizable that it is not worthy of my blood.
239 posted on 02/06/2007 10:03:26 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson

Very well said, but you are preaching to the choir. Many of us fear America has already gone past the point of return. All nations rise and fall -- we won't be an exception.


240 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:00 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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