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To: Patrick1; All

that is an extremely disingenuous headline...he didn't say he was MORE proud...leave it to our side for taking a wonderful moment and twisting it to look ugly.


16 posted on 02/05/2007 9:41:54 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Hildy
I don't see the problem here.

“I’m very proud to be the first African American head coach in the Super Bowl along with my friend Lovie Smith,” Dungy said, “but more than that the fact you have two Christian coaches who show you can do things a different way. “You have coaches who have firm Christian values, and the country and the world need to see that this week,” Dungy said. “I’m more proud of that than anything else.”

http://www.bpsports.net/bpsports.asp?ID=5540
30 posted on 02/05/2007 9:48:12 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: Hildy

Reread the article. Dungy said he was more proud that he and Lovie showed they could win doing it the Lords way, than he was at being two black coaches.


31 posted on 02/05/2007 9:48:33 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Hildy
But from the article Dungy's own words state: Tony Dungy: I'll tell you what. I'm proud to be representing African-American coaches, to be the first African-American to win this. It means an awful lot to our country. But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that.

Maybe I'm just missing your point.

33 posted on 02/05/2007 9:49:10 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Hildy

Re read it more carefully. He said exactly that.


34 posted on 02/05/2007 9:49:22 AM PST by pissant
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To: Hildy

"And we're more proud of that."

Did not see it but looks like it was quoted.


36 posted on 02/05/2007 9:53:17 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Hildy

He did state he was more proud of being Christian than something. Being black is the inferred something given the context of his statement and the question he was asked.


43 posted on 02/05/2007 10:00:14 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: Hildy
that is an extremely disingenuous headline...he didn't say he was MORE proud...leave it to our side for taking a wonderful moment and twisting it to look ugly.

I don't know what you think is being made to look ugly about his quote, but read the quote again. I've added emphasis to point out where he said what you said he didn't say.

But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that.

92 posted on 02/05/2007 10:36:51 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Hildy

Your post is extremely disingenous. Tony Dungy did indeed say he was more proud of being Christian than being the first black coach to win.

Why is pointing out that this fine man can look past color to Christ, who is indeed color-blind, "twisting it to look ugly".

I know you're not Christian, but being more proud of Christian than being black is definitely NOT ugly!!!!!


110 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:08 AM PST by GatorGirl
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To: Hildy
I think the title of the article reflects what Coach Dungy intended.

First, he answered the question then he used a transition, which is a rhetorical device you see public speakers use to "get on message." The transition was "But again, more than anything."

You also have to look at the context of the message he transitioned to. Coach Dungy knew this message would be, to some extent, unwelcome.

The next rhetorical device Coach Dungy used is repetition. He concluded his statement with "And we're more proud of that." To stay on message you need to state the message ans then restate it.

The message is clear to me - Coach Dungy is more "proud" of his relationship with God than his accomplishment viewed in the context of his skin color.

113 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:46 AM PST by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: Hildy

The headline is disingenous. He essentially said he was more proud that they won by running the team on Christian principles, not that he was more proud of Christ. There is a subtle difference.


135 posted on 02/05/2007 12:12:55 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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