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Gates Slams Mac Ads, Questions Mac Security
MacNN.com ^ | 2 Feb 2007

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:59:18 AM PST by big'ol_freeper

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To: rightwingextremist1776
you never know who has been in you system and when, unless you know how and where to look

Yes I do.

41 posted on 02/02/2007 11:51:39 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
"The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things."

That's because they don't need to.

42 posted on 02/02/2007 11:54:38 AM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: savedbygrace

--Hahahahahahahaha. Hey, you in the market for a bridge in NYC?---

ROLFLMAO!

I have never heard that one before. I must be get me a Mac so I can write cool things like that!


43 posted on 02/02/2007 11:56:51 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: fremont_steve
This isn't really true anymore- The new x86 MAC hardware is essentially identical to basic PC designs...

I realize that, but Apple only supports drivers for a tiny fraction of hardware that can physically fit in the motherboard.

It's the plethora of drivers that Windows supports that cause it to be less stable than OSX. Windows is infinitely more flexible than OSX.

It is always hardware drivers that cause the Blue Screen of Death.

44 posted on 02/02/2007 11:57:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"It's Windows that created a huge market for OEM hardware manufacturers.

Apple created a market for its own hardware."

Macs are now based on the same hardware as PCs. While Apple doesn't support all PC hardware, there is quite a selection available. Mac Pros can be configured in tons of distinct combinations now, and the video cards run the gamut from basic to top-end professional 3D cards.

I personally love MacOS X and my 24" iMac. =)

45 posted on 02/02/2007 11:58:57 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: 3niner

--That's because they don't need to.--

Then why are they starting to do it if they don't need to. Looks like a Mac users will be paying for a lot of technical fixes that they don't need. Mac OS programmers must be laughing all the way to Starbucks.

They get Mac users to go from Firewire to USB so they can hook up to APPLE IPODS, they go with an Intel chip so Mac users can run windows and now they make Mac users pay for uneeded fixes to the OS! Wow.


46 posted on 02/02/2007 11:59:41 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: big'ol_freeper
The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things.

This is like Batman saying that he's smarter than Superman because he has the sense to incorporate kevlar armor into his costume.

47 posted on 02/02/2007 12:01:00 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: UpAllNight
"PCGuy to MacGuy. Don't worry. I am sure that Apple will also install our operating system so you will still be able to function after your transplant."

You don't know much about Macs. You don't need anything from Windows unless you want to run your old Windows programs. Once you upgrade to Mac apps, Windows can go out the...window. =)

I'm quite sure over 90% of Mac owners will never install Windows on their Macs. For many of us, getting away from Windows was one of the big draws...

48 posted on 02/02/2007 12:01:45 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: big'ol_freeper

Was he shuffling two steel balls in his hand while he rambled like this?


49 posted on 02/02/2007 12:03:08 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: big'ol_freeper
exploiting Safari users

So who uses Safari anymore anyway?

On a related note, I LOVE those Mac commercials. I wanna bring that smug 20-something young man home for dinner. I love that he's so suble, so sympathetic to the poor Micro-man! It's just how I feel when discussing thier computer problems with my windows-using-sisters-who-won't-keep-their-kids-off-the-computer!

At a certain age, smugness rules!

50 posted on 02/02/2007 12:04:50 PM PST by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Little Billy?

I think it's mostly Apple users at this point.

The stupid "Im a Mac" ads completely turned me off to that platform. For all the "superiority" that was supposed to be obvious, I was totally underwhelmed.


51 posted on 02/02/2007 12:06:32 PM PST by VanDeKoik (Have a bit of humor today. You wont be able to stand this crap for 15 minutes if you dont!)
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To: UpAllNight
"No. Apple MAC went with the USB to be compatible with the Apple IPOD. All the Mac users were complaining that they couldn't hook up their Apple Ipods to their Apple Macs."

You are REALLY clueless about Macs.

Macs have had USB since long before they used Intel CPUs. Check out the feature list on even older G4 Macs, like the tiBook. It has USB, and was introduced in 2000.

Apple's long history with USB is one of the main reasons so many USB peripherals are Mac compatible.

52 posted on 02/02/2007 12:06:40 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: UpAllNight
"Since the Mac went to USB"

You do realize that the "Mac went to USB" before most PC makers did. Quite a long time ago in fact.

Before there was any such thing as an iPod all Macs were being shipped with USB.

53 posted on 02/02/2007 12:07:20 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: UpAllNight
Mac went to the Intel chip to run Windows

You're just making this stuff up now.

54 posted on 02/02/2007 12:07:59 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: L98Fiero

Oh I hear you on the difference between home use and corporate use....Let me ask you this...what's the difference to you if your corporate web site is taken down by a DDOS attack from corporate machines or home machines? I'll bet now the difference between home use and office use doesn't matter......Security is a comunity issue, not just a corporate issue. All who use the internet are affected.....But I do agree with you on the different risks involved between home and corporate use...


55 posted on 02/02/2007 12:08:53 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
OSX runs on a very limited selection of proprietary hardware.

I beg to differ. When I want my computer (mac iBook) to do something it's not set up to do (video conferencing) I just spend a little time on the net, head to my nearest Staples, and buy the product that is labled "Windows Only". Oh, ya, and I love to ask the clerk if it will work on a Mac. They always say "no", then I tell them if I can't make it work in 2 days, I'll bring it back. I very rarely take it back!

Heck, even when my computer says "Hey, I can't do that, I don't have enough memory or hardware or whatever" I just tell it to shut up and work....then it does it!

56 posted on 02/02/2007 12:09:20 PM PST by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: UpAllNight
No. Apple MAC went with the USB to be compatible with the Apple IPOD. All the Mac users were complaining that they couldn't hook up their Apple Ipods to their Apple Macs.

It would be great to see that documented.

57 posted on 02/02/2007 12:09:45 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: big'ol_freeper
"The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things."

Because Apple doesn't need to.
58 posted on 02/02/2007 12:11:05 PM PST by aruanan
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To: avg_freeper

He does NOT realize it, or he is lying.


59 posted on 02/02/2007 12:12:13 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski

The first generation iPods were firewire only. I know because I have one.


60 posted on 02/02/2007 12:13:33 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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