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NFL Prevents Church from having a Superbowl Party!
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Posted on 02/01/2007 7:38:48 AM PST by pctech
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To: proudpapa
I havent watched the Colts since they snuck out of Baltimore in the middle of the night.
Dont intend to either.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:16:42 AM PST
by
sgtbono2002
(I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
To: pctech
hahah Our chuch has a super bowl party every year where folks gather in basement and watch the game on big screen TV.... Guess its a good thing the NFL hasn't found out yet.
NFL is doing itself no favors if this is a true story...
To: discostu
Part of hte problem is that the courts have ruled that lack of commitment to protecting a trademark is the path to giving up the trademark (that's how Bill Watterson lost control of Calvin and Hobbes merch). So if the NFL turns too many blind eyes to church groups they could lose their ability to keep movie theaters from charging to watch the game on the super large screen (which is really the kind of thing they want to prevent). And all their enforcement is based on combining factors, the primary two to avoid are charging (for admission or additional services) and a large screen. You can invite friends over to watch it on your giant TV but don't charge them. They give a special exemption for "normal" sports venues (bars), but that's because they pre-established tradition and it's doubtful anybody would use sports bars as leverage against the NFLs control of their trademark.
Some of that is understandable....but part of the issue involves use of public airwaves. If this were distributed in private channels...encrypted signals....DVD.....pay-per-view....cable then that is one thing. Broadcast over the open broadcast frequencies and trying to restrict at the point of consumption is bothersome to me. It sets precedent in regard to other "image ownership". Networks also own their news images....the DNC owns its convention images....etc.
There still needs to be ability to control your own product....but I think that you should have considerably less ability to restrict when broadcast in the open over publicly owned airwaves receivable by anybody's private property.
I wont even begin to get into restricting tail-gating a mile from the stadium.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:17:51 AM PST
by
Arkinsaw
To: Tax-chick
It's a Baptist church. Not much chance of anybody getting liquored up there.
To: pctech
I believe this year's half time is the Rolling Stones, who earlier this year came out with an anti-Bush song.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:18:51 AM PST
by
Sensei Ern
(http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Time's 2006 Person of the Year)
To: Sensei Ern
No, its Prince. The Stones were last year.
To: Mr. Lucky
No, but all the people in the sports bars are, and they'll all be driving the same streets when the game ends.
Not to mention the rioting and destruction of property to be expected, whether the local team wins or loses.
67
posted on
02/01/2007 8:21:24 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
("Hyperbolic rodomontade of the most puerile type." ~ Aaron Elkins)
To: Arkinsaw
If this were a movie, One Night With The King for instance, being shown free of charge, would not they still be in violation of the law? When I bought "NFL Ticket" for $250, to see all games all season long, if I so chose, it comes with notice that I can use it only for my private use, not public, and cannot "re-broadcast, tape or otherwise" show it in a group setting........
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:21:32 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
To: Red Badger
I think so and this church was also trying to make a profit and should have to pay for the rights too. Is one thing when an entity or a person willingly gives to the church but you can't take it from them and you shouldn't whine when they don't put out.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:22:31 AM PST
by
tiki
To: Mr. Lucky
Not much chance of anybody getting liquored up there.
At least not, IN the church..........
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:22:56 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
To: pctech
I guess I'll have to cancel my "stupid" bowl party for this weekend.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:23:16 AM PST
by
Arrowhead1952
(Global warming = A lie told often enough, is eventually accepted as the truth.)
To: Red Badger
Don't sports bars, restaurants, etc, have to pay for the rights to show games?........
Any bar or commercial establishment pays cable/satellite fees based on the number of seats (not customers) in their establishment. Big sports bars pay big cable fees.
What part if any of that fee goes to the NFL, I don't know, but the TV networks definitely get a cut of it which is fair since they pay the NFL big bucks for broadcast rights.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:23:52 AM PST
by
Ditto
To: pctech
Much of it has to do with copyright. If they call it a Super bowl party it is infringement. Call it a Championship party and it might be OK. Local radio stations and sports bars have encountered the same thing for several years. It has nothing to do with a church.
73
posted on
02/01/2007 8:25:23 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
To: Bryan24
Bryan, our church is mostly about worship, but I am not aware of anything scriptural prohibiting fellowship by watching TV or playing sports or otherwise enjoying the company of other Christians outside of the worship experience. My guess is that the church wanted to provide a venue without alcohol and some of the other revelry that usually accompanies Super Bowl parties (which is why I am going to a non-church-sponsored Super Bowl gathering-- I need a beer or two to watch football).
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:25:44 AM PST
by
NCLaw441
To: pctech
Just wondering how the NFL even found out about this.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:25:49 AM PST
by
Kenton
(All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
To: Sloth
It does a couple of things:
1 - It's somebody making money using the NFLs logos without the NFL getting any money.
2 - It's bad for the ratings, the whole Neilson machine is built around some pre-set number of people per set. if you've got movie theaters filling 700 and 800 seat auditoriums to watch the game all over the country it's probably going to hurt the Neilson numbers, which might hurt the networks (those number by and large dictate how much you charge for advertising), which will hurt the NFL (damage to the SB gravy train will reduce how much the networks are willing to pay the NFL). They might be able to work with Neilson to slide the scale to slide the scale for extenuating circumstances, although one of the things that keeps Neilson so powerful is they have a rep for not messing with the numbers for any reason.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:26:19 AM PST
by
discostu
(Feed her some hungry reggae, she'll love you twice)
To: Red Badger
At our church during Lent, we wanted some inserts for our bulletin, the company that provides the copyrighted material was way behind and couldn't get us the materials. We had a copy and could have copied it and they would never have known but we called the company, told them how many copies we would need and asked if we could just pay them a copyright fee. They agreed and we had our inserts and they had the money they were rightly due.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:27:02 AM PST
by
tiki
To: mtbopfuyn
I'd like to know how they have the authority to ban what those people do in their own back yards
In my backyard it is not tailgating, it is cooking out.
78
posted on
02/01/2007 8:29:05 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
To: atomicpossum
You've asked some excellent questions. I wonder if NFL rules say anything about bookies taking bets on "the Big Game."
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:29:57 AM PST
by
joylyn
To: Kenton
Just wondering how the NFL even found out about this. There's a link to a newspaper article. The church has a website.
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posted on
02/01/2007 8:30:42 AM PST
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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