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SEN. BIDEN SHOCK INTERVIEW: OBAMA FIRST 'CLEAN' BLACK IN MAINSTREAM
Drudge Report ^ | January 31, 2007

Posted on 01/31/2007 7:22:13 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

SEN. BIDEN SHOCK INTERVIEW: OBAMA FIRST 'CLEAN' BLACK IN MAINSTREAM...

'I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy'...


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To: brwnsuga
And even if he leans slightly to the left, it can be forgiven since he is so terribly nice looking.

LOL! OK, I'll take your word for it!

381 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:38 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
.....half of the $334 million in federal aid to New Orleans had not been claimed because the city (i.e., Nagin) had not filled out the required paperwork.>>>>>

Jeez, Steve! Picky-picky-picky. My man Ray just not be jiggy wit da paperwork, OK? He be a big picture kind of guy... need a consultant or something to handle that kind of stuff, bro.

I finds it racist that you be picking on this man, and not mentioning nothing about how this be George Bush's fault.

382 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:56 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Biden, Biden, he's my man, if I can say it, he soon can!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I asked a well-connected Democrat friend of mine in DC about Biden. Her answer was that "Biden is a blithering idiot. All the Democrats know he is a blithering idiot, but he plays well to the cameras and is electable -- and those are the most important qualities in a Senator when you are trying to take over the House and Senate as the Democrats are".

Pretty cynical from the Party that is supposed to be filled with idealists!


383 posted on 01/31/2007 11:00:44 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yes, Joe....Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have always been UNCLEAN....lol.


384 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:12 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking."

Go to video for posterity Jeeves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU

The Dunkin Donuts explanation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIy9_oOSndM

Sen. Biden Brags: "My State Was A Slave State"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700626.html

(Yep, I have video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFduMuP7v-k

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Off Topic, we may need to save this speech at the Rotary Club re: immigration... interesting. (Audio not that hot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15djRzWG3_0

If you search youtube under Biden, you will see flip-flops from the surge and everything in between.


385 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:18 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: relee
He's clean, very clean...

A little trivia... I'm a big fan of Steptoe and Son on BBC radio. This was the show that Sanford and Son was based on, so you get the idea.

Apparently, in Steptoe, Wilfred Brambell is frequently referred to as a dirty old man. Brits seeing a Hard Day's Night wherein Brambell is called 'clean' throughout the movie would have gotten the joke. When I saw the movie as a kid, I just thought they meant Brambell was physically clean. Live and learn. : )

386 posted on 01/31/2007 11:02:31 AM PST by radiohead (They call me DOCTOR radiohead.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don't get me started on the plagarism...

Profile: PLTC-1987-JRB
Name: Joseph R. Biden, Jr.



War on Plagiarism Threat Level:
Red: Severe Risk



Occupation: Politician, US Senator (Delaware)



Allegations: Repeated instances of plagiarism since the “stressless scholarship” of his college days



Results: Circulation of “attack video” by Dukakis campaign torpedoed his presidential aspirations in 1987



Known for: Glib oratorical skills and speechmaking



Overview: Joe Biden’s history of plagiarism and “stressless scholarship” gave plenty of ammo to his enemies, one of them choosing to circulate a so-called “attack video” to demonstrate Biden’s outright plagiarism of a British politician’s speech. But this appropriation from Neal Kinnock was not the first occurrence of unacknowledged lifting by the senator from Delaware.

In 1965 Biden plagiarized while writing a paper as a student at the Syracuse University Law School in a legal methods course which he failed because of that copied paper. Such “stressless scholarship” as it is euphemistically called has become all too common in the modern Internet era with countless cheatsites and “research services” offering to sell students papers on topics from A to Z.

Biden’s case demonstrates that student plagiarism is nothing new. Only the methods of cheating have changed. Today, cheating has gone digital with the proliferation of Internet based paper filing and distributions systems, but the principles—or lack thereof—are the same. And as the Biden case illustrates, getting caught for such academic dishonesty may have serious ramifications for one’s political career. Joe Biden’s failed bid for the Democratic ticket is a case in point.

“Stressless scholarship” may seem like a pretty good idea at the time that many students make that decision to ‘crib’, copy, or dowload a paper off the Internet, but in Biden’s case the plagiarism of his student days came back to haunt his bid for the democratic presidential nomination like a spectre from his past.

In an article entitled “Biden’s Belly Flop”, Newsweek printed Joe Biden’s yearbook picture from his college days and a copy of his law school transcripts with the big “F” in his transcripts circled. Biden was given a chance to repeat his legal methods course, and above the “F” his retake grade of 80% was eventually penciled in. Being a repeat offender when it came to plagiarism made things much, much worse for Biden than they might have been otherwise in his failed bid for the Democratic presidential ticket in 1987.

Senator Biden’s plagiarism of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neal Kinnock took place at a campaign stump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. In closing his speech, Biden took Kinnock’s ideas and language as if they were his very own inspired thoughts, prefacing Kinnock’s ideas with the phrase “I started thinking as I was coming over here . . . “. Little did Biden suspect that video footage of this speech would be spliced together with footage of Kinnock’s speech in an “attack video” which would be distributed by members of the Dukakis campaign.

Making the headline news in the New York Times, and the evening news on TV, the video was a stab in the back for Biden by his democratic competitor, and although he insisted that “I’m in this race to stay. I’m in this race to win,” the resulting publicity surrounding his unacknowledged use of Neal Kinnock’s speech was what eventually forced him out of the race. Name recognition was no longer a problem for Biden, but not the kind of name recognition which would assist his campaign for the democratic presidential nomination. His name was now a byword for plagiarism. His situation became a classic example of plagiarism for high school teachers and college instructors across the nation lecturing on the evils of unacknowledged source use.

Biden initially denied any wrongdoing, claiming that this was just an inadvertent lack of acknowledgement. Yet there were other instances of rhetorical borrowing from speeches made by Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey. And the fact that Biden had given other speeches using the Kinnock passages without acknowledgment suggested that the lifting was more than just an inadvertent oversight.

As with Al Gore’s case, the perception existed in the public mind that Biden just wasn’t the real thing. He wasn’t authentic, didn’t have thoughts and ideas of his own, and was a malleable piece of clay being molded by his handlers to suit the political whims and fancies which they thought would appeal to voters. A Time magazine article by Walter Shapairo was pretty much on the money in offering the speculation that “In the end, Biden may be remembered as the candidate who truly offered the voters an echo and not a choice.”

William Safire, former speechwriter for Richard Nixon, gloated in the New York Times over Biden’s demise, quoting a supposedly “embittered Democrat” who said, “I’m going back to Gary Hart . . . At least he didn’t steal that girl from some far-lefty in England.” And he concluded his op-ed column with a swipe at Biden’s ability to think apart from his speechwriter: “So my advice to candidates like Joe Biden is this: Do justly, love perorations and walk humbly with thy speechwriter. (I forget where I got that, but it has a nice ring to it.) ”

With all the press he was receiving over his Neal Kinnock plagiarism courtesy of the Dukakis “attack videos”, Biden was quickly becoming the “most famous political plagiarist of our time”, as Thomas Mallon describes the unfortunate Delaware senator. It was just a matter of time before Biden would have to bow out of the democratic primary.

Biden himself thought that all the attention to his rhetorical borrowing was “frankly ludicrous”, and the media analysts generally agreed, stating that is was “hardly a capital offense”, but as William Safire put it, “times have changed; you can’t get away with borrowing anything these days – not even an oratorical technique, much less a phrase or paragraph – unless you are willing to give the attribution.” If Gore’s loss of the presidency to George W. Bush in 2000 was more indirectly related to plagiarism, it is evident that Biden’s case is without question a direct result of his unacknowledged use of Kinnock’s speech as if it were his very own. This instance of plagiarism and the public exposure it received cut short the presidential aspirations of an otherwise gifted orator and statesman.

References
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/books.htm

Just think, we still have a lot of years to check after this...


387 posted on 01/31/2007 11:07:08 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: AliVeritas
Safire's quote of an unnamed "embittered Democrat" (which I hadn't seen before) has me ROFLMAO!

"William Safire, former speechwriter for Richard Nixon, gloated in the New York Times over Biden’s demise, quoting a supposedly “embittered Democrat” who said, “I’m going back to Gary Hart . . . At least he didn’t steal that girl from some far-lefty in England.”
388 posted on 01/31/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

How can anyone, especially a politician, say these things out loud?


389 posted on 01/31/2007 11:16:02 AM PST by sarasota
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To: West Coast Conservative

390 posted on 01/31/2007 11:16:52 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: woofie

Off to rehab?


391 posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:09 AM PST by sarasota
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To: dfwgator

Thank you. Worst movie ever.


392 posted on 01/31/2007 11:17:45 AM PST by Dan Nunn
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To: relee

Don't let him fool you, he's a king mixer.


393 posted on 01/31/2007 11:23:22 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: mainepatsfan

It's kind of funny because back in the early 90s everyone said, "I wish the show had talent, like back in the 70s," and now that it's the 00s, everyone says, 'I wish the show was the way it was back when David Spade and Phil Hartman and Chris Farley were on. It was much funnier and just better overall.'

I'm too young to remember the 70s and most of the 80s, but I agree that the early 90s SNL sure beats what they have today.


394 posted on 01/31/2007 11:23:49 AM PST by jdm
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To: dead

Joe Biden: One clean, fine-smelling Senator.


395 posted on 01/31/2007 11:25:09 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

If the video shows up on YouTube, will someone please post it here (and ping me), pretty please?


396 posted on 01/31/2007 11:25:58 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Mo1

Could this be the shortest "campaign" on record?


397 posted on 01/31/2007 11:28:33 AM PST by sarasota
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To: dead

398 posted on 01/31/2007 11:28:44 AM PST by woofie (Its Patriotic to be Hateful,Nasty,Stupid and Destroy the Country as long as you are a Democrat)
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To: jdm

In those days the entire show was good...not just one or two skits.


399 posted on 01/31/2007 11:29:20 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: dead

Gimme head with hair
Long beautiful hair
Shining, gleaming,
Streaming, flaxen,
waxen

Give me down to there hair
Shoulder length or longer
Here baby, there mama
Everywhere daddy daddy


Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair
Flow it, show it
Long as God can grow it
My hair


400 posted on 01/31/2007 11:29:47 AM PST by woofie (Its Patriotic to be Hateful,Nasty,Stupid and Destroy the Country as long as you are a Democrat)
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