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FRENCH ELECTION: NEW IPSOS POLL Sarko 54% Royal 46%
le Monde ^ | January 30, 2007 | self

Posted on 01/30/2007 5:48:59 PM PST by Cincinna

A new IPSOS poll published January 30,2007, shows Nicholas Sarkozy, UMP (Right)candidate beating Segolene Royal, PS Socialist Party (Left) candidate.

The results for the 1er Tour ( first round) are Sarko 35% Royal 26% with le Pen and Bayrou tied at 11%.

In the 2eme Tout (runoff) the results are Sarko 54% Royal 46%.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: elections; france; frenchelection; royal; sarkozy; segolene; segoleneroyal; sgolneroyal
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This is the first time the polls show Sarko breaking away from a ded heat statistical tie.

Good news for France, and for the US.

Bad news for Hillary and the Dims who think Hillary and her HINO should be the model for the world.

1 posted on 01/30/2007 5:49:03 PM PST by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

Vive l'Americain.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 5:56:50 PM PST by Argus
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To: Cincinna
Amazing how staring your own cultural extinction in the face can cause a very zealous conversion. It remains to be seen if the French have grown a big enough pair in the last 60 years to follow through with it, or if they'll just grab their ankles and allow themselves to be further defiled as they filter down into the dustbin of Western history.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 6:03:55 PM PST by Viking2002 (Islam is to Western Civilization what ticks are to a dog.)
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To: Cincinna
SARKO, the American, as his left wing detractors call him, is gaining. Here he is in 2006 with George W. Bush in Washington, DC.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 6:06:38 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Viking2002

I'm truthfully surprised. Royale is as slick and likeable as they come. Even though Sarkozy made more sense, I couldn't see them passing her up.

My credits to the French if this trend continues...


5 posted on 01/30/2007 6:10:20 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Cincinna
The dems will have to rage war if they hold onto power. At least the liberal lemmings will follow.
6 posted on 01/30/2007 6:12:58 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: Viking2002

Morbus Gallicus. [See Fracastoro]


7 posted on 01/30/2007 6:13:11 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Cincinna

Boy, Royal really imploded!
The combination of her womanish nervousness about the military, putting her foot it in again and again and again (esp. regarding Corsica), and the revelation that she's rich have all made her look weak and ineffective.

I had much higher expectations of her than has panned out.

Sarko, meanwhile, is doing quite well. And it looks as though Chirac can't play spoiler as he might have, because Villepin wants to live, and so he's sidling up to Sarko.

I no longer think it will be decided in the DOM. Royal is too weak. She needn't have been. The female vote won't save her if she's perceived as being weak and dumb by women.

It's not over. Sarko could still put a "J'Aime George Bush" bumper sticker on his car or something similarly inane, but he's a known quantity so he won't.

I'd say it's Sarko's election to lose now.
I definitely wouldn't have said that before the Corsica business, but people took a hard look and saw her squirm over the military.

Contrast Mme. Clinton's: "What in my background would make me able to deal with evil, bad men?"


8 posted on 01/30/2007 6:20:54 PM PST by Vicomte13 (L'Chaim!)
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To: Cincinna

Here's hoping he is able to deliver ze bacon soon.. Good news indeed.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 6:23:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Cincinna
Hoo hum. By French standards, Jac Chirac is a "conservative". Who ever the french elect will be either a socialist, a nutcase, or both.
10 posted on 01/30/2007 6:27:07 PM PST by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi -- we elected ROSKAM)
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To: BillyBoy

Obviously, from your post, you know nothing about French politics or French elections.

Stick around and read up on it; you might actually learn something.


11 posted on 01/30/2007 6:39:27 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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But wouldn't a French designated "nutcase" actually appear perfectly normal and reasonable to US?

Reverse psychology playing against the insane French, yet again, this time?


LOL!
12 posted on 01/30/2007 6:53:11 PM PST by sarasmom ( War is not the most vile of the evils humanity commits . There is always apathy...)
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To: Cincinna
You're probably one of those freepers who got all excited when Mexico's "conservative" party won. "Conservative" overseas does NOT mean what it means in the USA. All four of France's "main" parties are socialist. The only one that isn't socialist is the "far-right" National Front, and they aren't conservative either. They are only "conservative" on immigration and culture, and their leader is a cross between Pat Buchanan and Lyndon LaRouche.

You guy Sarko is from the UMP party, JUST LIKE Jac Chirac. Maybe you might want to read up on the fact that Sarkozy firmly rejects the American war in Iraq as a mistake. He supports Chirac's opposition to the war. France is a nation overrun with atheists and socialists, so anyone who strays from either believe has zero chance of being elected in France. The fact Sarko is their idea of "right wing" won't change that, anymore when "right-wing" Chirac was elected.

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Can't believe people are getting excited that France's idea of a "right wing" politican is winning. So what? France's CURRENT president is from their "right-wing" party. The same party that nominated Jac Chirac nominated this guy. The only reason they DIDN'T nominate Chirac again is he didn't announce his candidacy because knows he'd lose a third term. Here's the new guy:


"I am not a conservative. I do not want an immobile France. I want innovation, creativity, the struggle against injustices."

Oh yeah, this guy is our buddy.

Sarko vs. Royale is simply left-wing vs. far-left wing. Another "victory" like when gay-marrage luvin' Gavin Newsom became Mayor of San Francisco instead of the Green Party guy.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 6:56:34 PM PST by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi -- we elected ROSKAM)
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To: Cincinna

But is his lead a fraud-proof lead?


14 posted on 01/30/2007 6:57:52 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Cincinna

This is a very good sign. Hopefully a sign of things to come.


15 posted on 01/30/2007 6:59:53 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Viking2002
"Amazing how staring your own cultural extinction in the face can cause a very zealous conversion."

Time for the French to temporarily put away the white flags.

16 posted on 01/30/2007 7:00:30 PM PST by Starboard
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To: sarasmom
Yes, a person who the French deem to be nuts would be "normal" by our standards. Le Pen is a nasty bigot but he is currently the ONLY one is France with sane views on immigration. As such, the French view his position on immigration to be "far-right" and "deranged". So in the meantime, France will continue be overrun with Islamofacists.

France will elected either a socialist or a nutcase, or both, from our standards.

There are no rational, culutrally conservative people in France. This is FRANCE we're talking about. Even if they managed to elect Le Pen, he's do the right thing on immigration but still support bitter anti-semetic, isolationism, anti-Bush, and socialist economic policies. A french "conservative" is like a "moderate" islamic leader.

17 posted on 01/30/2007 7:01:34 PM PST by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi -- we elected ROSKAM)
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To: Vicomte13

I missed the news about Royal vis-a-vis Corsica. Qu-est ce qui s'est passé?


18 posted on 01/30/2007 7:05:20 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: BillyBoy

I'm still not buying french cheese, or whatever it is they used to make.


19 posted on 01/30/2007 7:05:45 PM PST by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: BillyBoy

Not hardly.

Yes, all major French parties are statist. Statism is France. It is why the Celtic piece does not break off from the German piece, and why the Viking piece doesn't rebel against the Cathar piece. It's why the Basque piece isn't blowing things up, and why the black and polynesian pieces do not fly away. France is a nationality built from a state. And the state has served France well.

No French politician is going to dismantle the state, attack the state, or indeed make any of the anti-government remarks that American politicians make.

That is not France.

Sarkozy is interested in proper incentives for business, and he is very hard on internal security and immigration.
Royal wants greater integration of Beurs (as does Sarkozy).

Most distinctively, Sarkozy wants markedly better relations with America. The rest of French politicians do not see a need to change the status quo. And Sarko wants to start phasing back job protections - which isn't going to happen under any circumstances but he is permitted to dream.

Sarkozy thought the American war in Iraq was ill-founded and unwise. Certainly it has been badly handled and badly fought by the Americans, so the French fears: that the US would make a hash of it and leave the region in chaos when political will collapsed at home, does not seem to be panning out wrong. Sarkozy praises Chirac for opposing the war in Iraq from the outset. French troops are IN Afghanistan, fighting, so the French position isn't doggedly anti-American nor against fighting. It was, and is, against adventurism in Iraq (and Iran. And Syria.) That's how the French see it. All of them. All parties.
Not going to change.

Sarkozy will not be the "buddy" of the US. He will be the President of the French Republic. His first and final duty is to the well being and safety of the people of France, NOT the well-being and safety of the people of the United States. He doesn't represent America, and he will not be leading America. His view is that better relationships with America make sense in many areas, and are worth doing.
He's never going to support the war in Iraq and he's not going to let France get sucked into it. And if and when the American position implodes there, France will certainly be in there trying to gain back the influence it had under Saddam.

If you want a lapdog, you are not going to see a French candidate who suits your desires. If you want a friend, Sarkozy is your best bet, probably followed by Le Pen. But Le Pen has no chance.


20 posted on 01/30/2007 7:16:39 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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