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1 posted on 01/30/2007 11:48:26 AM PST by presidio9
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Merle Haggard, the Okie from Muskogee, claim that the state of the nation had never been worse

Thats a little disheartening

2 posted on 01/30/2007 11:51:24 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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Willie Nelson probably thinks the same thing. leftwing moonbats both.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 11:53:52 AM PST by pissant
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True, we are mired in a war without end, costing us far too many great young and old Americans and too many limbs and wrecked families and vastly too much money. But we all know we're getting out soon.

Even the terrorists know this.

5 posted on 01/30/2007 11:54:02 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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True, we are mired in a war without end, costing us far too many great young and old Americans and too many limbs and wrecked families and vastly too much money. But we all know we're getting out soon.

This paragraph is very troubling coming from Ben Stein.

6 posted on 01/30/2007 11:56:08 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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It was a huge mistake, but I'd like to see a President who did not make immense mistakes.

I keep hearing people who should know better claiming Iraq was a mistake, but never venture a guess at what would or could have happened if we left Saddam in power.
9 posted on 01/30/2007 11:57:48 AM PST by motzman (just hangin' around....)
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"mired in a war"

Exercising purposeful actions in one's self-interest is not being mired.


13 posted on 01/30/2007 11:59:42 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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And suddenly it hit me. The media is staging a coup against Mr. Bush, just the way they did against LBJ and Nixon and tried to do against Reagan.

And suddenly it hit him? Where has he been for the last 6 years?

14 posted on 01/30/2007 12:00:21 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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What about Vietnam? What about Korea?

What about Somalia and Waco and the USS Cole? What about the first time the WTC was attacked, little Elian, or the economy that was on it's way down after the second term?

16 posted on 01/30/2007 12:01:21 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Hated by all NFL fans since 1990.)
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And suddenly it hit me.

A moron who's been asleep or in deep denial for years...

17 posted on 01/30/2007 12:03:54 PM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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The media is staging a coup against Mr. Bush...

Duh! Just what planet has this bean bag been on for the last 4 years?

20 posted on 01/30/2007 12:06:16 PM PST by Renkluaf
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This alone tells you Stein has no political acumen and no faith in capitalism.

"It was a huge mistake, but I'd like to see a President who did not make immense mistakes. What about Vietnam? What about Korea?

True, the rich often get away with murder in the executive suite. Bush is partly to blame, but all politicians cater to the rich. What America's high degree thieves suck out of the system is nauseating and I fight it constantly, but that's life."

Iraq has not been a mistake. Viet Nam was not a mistake -- until we left. Korea was not a mistake.

His comment about the "high degree thieves" who "suck (money) out of the system" is pure Marxism. If he wanted to talk about removing barriers to entry and achieving a more Laissez Faire system, then that's one thing. But his comment makes it sound like no CEO is worth hundreds of millions in compensation -- that they must be thieves instead. This is right in line with other comments of his, so it isn't just taken out of context. He writes constantly about how the rich should pay more in taxes. Sickening.


21 posted on 01/30/2007 12:06:25 PM PST by Kellis91789
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It was a huge mistake,

That one line has made me change my opinion of Mr. Stein. I used to like him, now I want to kick him in the balls (as if he had any).

22 posted on 01/30/2007 12:15:32 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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(although this is very unevenly distributed)

And that is because some people run businesses, and some turn cogs, and some don't work at all. It's called capitalism.

What the hell is wrong with Stein? I only clicked on this thread because I really enjoy listening to him. It seems his environment is finally getting to him.

There are so many things wrong with this article, I would almost swear it was written by a left wing loon.

23 posted on 01/30/2007 12:20:20 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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Merle who? We are now resorting to hearing political opinions from Merle Haggard? Whether it's a good or bad opinion, I don't give a rats rear end about what some country singer thinks about our President.


25 posted on 01/30/2007 12:22:11 PM PST by PeanutbutterandJellybean
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Haggard a great singer? Not.


27 posted on 01/30/2007 12:27:00 PM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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..wow Ben, no more Visine for me

We simply do not need this right now--our troops do not need it...

29 posted on 01/30/2007 12:28:41 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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I think Ben is saying the "mistake" is how the war has been run up until now, which is the truth. Going to war, getting rid of Saddam and putting an end to his support of Islamic radicalism will never be a mistake. How it has been run (ie. we're just theatening Iran to stay out of Iraq now; not being able to follow enemies on the battlefield, just flush them out of cities and wait for them to come back) is a mistake.


30 posted on 01/30/2007 12:29:15 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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Wow. You should read some of the reasoned, well thought out comments:

Hey Benny - why don't you and your AIPAC friends discuss this: U.S.: Israel may have violated cluster bomb use The United States said on Monday Israel may have violated an agreement with Washington in its use of U.S.-made cluster bombs during last July's war with Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16870496/from/ET/

Why doesn't veryone check this out - don't think it's even mentioned on CBS - lots of kids playing in their yards now are either dead or without arms, legs, eyes, hands. IDF ers are real humanitarians - if you're a Jew, anyone else is just a "human shield". Right.
Posted by karlimhof at 07:05 AM : Jan 30, 2007


Sheesh. Hate Jews much?
32 posted on 01/30/2007 12:30:39 PM PST by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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The media is staging a coup against Mr. Bush,

Wrong tense....The media HAS BEEN STAGING a coup albeit a failed one for the last 6 years.

41 posted on 01/30/2007 1:10:58 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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But no one elected the media to anything. In the TV studios and newsrooms, there is a lynch mob at work

a one party media lynch mob

53 posted on 01/30/2007 2:21:24 PM PST by alrea (Because the press told them to, day in and day out, 24/7, headline after headline, for six years...)
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