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Ballistics data don't support charge against border agents
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 28, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/29/2007 2:14:21 AM PST by Man50D

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1 posted on 01/29/2007 2:14:24 AM PST by Man50D
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Nearly two years after the conclusion of the trial, the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas has yet to release a transcript of the trial.

!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
This whole thing smells like a week old dead cat in July.

2 posted on 01/29/2007 2:20:13 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Man50D
DHS informed the Texas Republican delegation the documents would not be turned over to them because the Democrats were now in control of Congress and Rep. McCaul was no longer chairman of the Investigations Subcommittee of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

ah, what the hell?
3 posted on 01/29/2007 2:25:24 AM PST by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: Man50D
In an affidavit filed by DHS on March 15, 2005, with the U.S. District Court in the Western District of Texas, special agent Christopher R. Sanchez swore the following: Ballistics testing confirms a government-issued weapon belonging to U.S. Border Patrol Agent Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos, a 96D Beretta .40 caliber automatic pistol, serial number BER067069M, fired a bullet (a .40 caliber Smith & Wesson jacketed hollow point) which hit the victim in the left buttocks while he was attempting to flee to Mexico.

That is a pretty huge lie! This Christopher R. Sanchez character seems to be at the heart of a lot of the discrepancies and shady arrangements.

4 posted on 01/29/2007 2:31:37 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: R. Scott

I think the author screwed that one up. Compean and Ramos were convicted by the jury on March 8, 2006.


5 posted on 01/29/2007 2:32:27 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Man50D
Why all the technicalities?

The agents we doing there job. It's the system that failed them. I wouldn't want support groups on my behalf to cry conspiracy. I would want them to cry FOUL at this failed immigration policy with Mexico.
6 posted on 01/29/2007 2:59:02 AM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Man50D

Hasn't anybody brought up the old 'chain of evidence' question. Good grief. One of his buddies probably shot him because he lost the dope.


7 posted on 01/29/2007 3:27:35 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Man50D

George and Alberto won't let logic, patriotism or fair play get in the way of crucifying border agnets for doing a good job of fighting drug-delaing illegal invaders.

It might the Mexicans mad or discourage more illegal invaders from coming into America and taking low paying jobs from special interest groups who are lowering the American standard of life.


8 posted on 01/29/2007 3:43:05 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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It's a heck of a note when border law enforcement agents get into an altercation with a Mexican drug smuggler and find out too late the drug smuggler has more friends in the Bush Administration than they have. If the President doesn't fix this one, and fix it soon, he will surely lose what little support he has left among conservatives.

And don't expect any help from the Democrat Congress, they must love every minute of this travesty for what it's doing to the GOP. I can just hear them now, "The President gives pardons to convicted drug dealers and allows his Department of Justice to "Nifong" Border Patrol Agents when they attempt to enforce our drug laws at the Mexican border."
9 posted on 01/29/2007 4:29:49 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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"It might make the mexicans mad...."

There have been plenty of other Freepers on other threads who would go along with not wanting to make the mexicans mad and plenty of others who think these agents "got what they deserved". I hope, with more info coming to light, these jerks choke on the words they have written here.


10 posted on 01/29/2007 4:30:48 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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I'd say that, regardless of their intent and actions during the shooting, cops who shoot 15 times, then pick up their brass and fail to file a shooting report, are asking for whatever trouble a prosecutor chooses to make for them.


11 posted on 01/29/2007 4:55:30 AM PST by DWPittelli
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To: R. Scott

Sure does.


12 posted on 01/29/2007 5:32:33 AM PST by Dante3
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To: DJ Taylor

Exactly.


13 posted on 01/29/2007 5:37:22 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama; nopardons; William Terrell

In case you've been wondering what Prof. Corsi's been up to. "Nearly a year" has become "[n]early two years." I guess Jan. 1st throws him off.


14 posted on 01/29/2007 5:43:23 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DWPittelli
I'd say that, regardless of their intent and actions during the shooting, cops who shoot 15 times, then pick up their brass and fail to file a shooting report, are asking for whatever trouble a prosecutor chooses to make for them.

Oh yea, sure, these agents thought that nobody would know about the shooting because they didn't file a report???? Uh, I believe their supervisor was on the scene fairly pronto - I don't understand your incredulous lack of support for these agents in light of new evidence now coming out??
15 posted on 01/29/2007 5:54:09 AM PST by RushingWater
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...no U.S. law enforcement officer on the border will ever again draw a weapon against a Mexican illegal transporting drugs without worrying that effort to enforce our laws may place him in jail, not the doper.

Could this be the objective of the open border mindset?

16 posted on 01/29/2007 6:08:58 AM PST by WesternPacific
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In an affidavit filed by DHS on March 15, 2005, with the U.S. District Court in the Western District of Texas, special agent Christopher R. Sanchez swore the following:

Ballistics testing confirms a government-issued weapon belonging to U.S. Border Patrol Agent Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos, a 96D Beretta .40 caliber automatic pistol, serial number BER067069M, fired a bullet (a .40 caliber Smith & Wesson jacketed hollow point) which hit the victim in the left buttocks while he was attempting to flee to Mexico.


Contrasted with the actual contents of the lab report, this combination of documents provides prima facie of a FELONY by FBI agent Sanchez of PERJURY.

Remember that Congress impeached Bill Clinton for committing perjury. If perjury was so serious by Bill Clinton to impeace a sitting President, can we simply overlook it in the FBI? In Clinton's case, it was a one-time thing about Paula Jones.

But in the case of the FBI, it is probably going to happen again unless we put a stop to it. How many other people are going to go to jail based on lies from the same special agent? Or is it the culture of the entire office?
17 posted on 01/29/2007 6:40:02 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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To: calcowgirl
Of course you can think that (that it is okay because a jury found them guilty). But I think it is abundantly obvious that the jury would probably not have found them guilty if the jury had known that the FBI special agent was LYING TO THEM about the ballistics report.

I think you also underestimate the tendency of juries to be railroaded by prosecutors. Most people assume defendants are guilty if the prosecutor says so. That is why it is essential that we police the police (and FBI) to eradicate any dishonesty or abuse.
18 posted on 01/29/2007 6:42:45 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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To: DWPittelli
I'd say that, regardless of their intent and actions during the shooting, cops who shoot 15 times, then pick up their brass and fail to file a shooting report, are asking for whatever trouble a prosecutor chooses to make for them.

Would it change your opinion if you learned (as the White House and Prosecutor Sutton don't want you to know) that supervisors came on the scene shortly after and were informed directly, live, and that DHS procedures prefer a verbal report to a paper one?
19 posted on 01/29/2007 6:47:35 AM PST by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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Sure it would. Please go on.


20 posted on 01/29/2007 6:48:16 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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