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The Road to Serfdom
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Posted on 01/28/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by Jacquerie

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1 posted on 01/28/2007 9:29:03 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

An exceptional book, though not exactly light reading.


2 posted on 01/28/2007 9:32:50 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Jacquerie

This book is a must read IMHO. It puts the entire economic/class/welfare question into its true perspective.


3 posted on 01/28/2007 9:32:55 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Jacquerie

Thank you for posting this. Unfortunately, it seems that we are going to learn of the grim consequences of socialist policy, the hard way.


4 posted on 01/28/2007 9:34:16 AM PST by oblomov (Progress is precisely that which the rules and regulations did not foresee. - von Mises)
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To: festus

If I recall correctly when you read this book keep in mind the terms liberal and conservative are flipped from their current meaning.

The liberal thought of the day was personal freedom and personal responsibility and the conservative (ie. traditional) thought was the class based system with government both taking care of the peasantry and defining their role in society.


5 posted on 01/28/2007 9:34:48 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Jacquerie

I'd put it on the "must" reading list, not just on the the "recommended" list.


6 posted on 01/28/2007 9:35:13 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: Jacquerie
What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven.

Worth repeating.

Perhaps someday it will sink in to the masses.

7 posted on 01/28/2007 9:39:14 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jacquerie

BTT I'll look for it. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 01/28/2007 9:39:27 AM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: Jacquerie
Found the book in image form on mises.org. Scary but eerily parallel to events in our own nation. I think that we are around step 9, curiously just before "the strong man is given power" in step 10 (would that be Hillary in 2008?).

Found this quote from the book in Wikipedia: "The principle that the end justifies the means is in individualist ethics regarded as the denial of all morals. In collectivist ethics it becomes necessarily the supreme rule."

I didn't know about this book until this post on FR . . . now I may have to find a copy and read it.

9 posted on 01/28/2007 9:44:00 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: EGPWS
Perhaps someday it will sink in to the masses.

The unfortunate thing is that by the time we reach that point, we will already have gone past the point of no return.

10 posted on 01/28/2007 9:44:32 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: Jacquerie
Sounds like an excellent read, unfortunately it will have to wait till this summer. I found the dedication...

Dedicated “To the Socialists of All Parties”

...particularly interesting and something that we should keep in mind as we move into the primary season.
11 posted on 01/28/2007 9:47:22 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Jacquerie
Hayek had an uncanny psychological insight into the political wiles of human predators. OTH, maybe that's normal for economists.

The Road to Serfdom gives eyes to the oppressed. I'd have to read it again for signs that teach us freedom.

12 posted on 01/28/2007 9:47:36 AM PST by cornelis
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Even among brilliant economists Hayek stands out as another kind of animal altogether. His insights span the breadth of all public policy issues, and I think once we get past this last generation enamored with the utopian ideal of socialism, his writing will begin to be appreciated for what they really are.

He was right when everyone said he was wrong, and ridiculed him (and worse) for it.

13 posted on 01/28/2007 9:54:35 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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The unfortunate thing is that by the time we reach[ed] that point, we will already have gone past the point of no return.

JMO

14 posted on 01/28/2007 9:57:33 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: facedown
the English author

Austrian. He spent the duration of WWII in England. His background gave him a unique perspective on Germany. The British thought their enemy was inherently evil ie it was the German's genetic/cultural makeup.

Hayek primary thesis was that what happened in Nazi Germany could happen anywhere - it was just the end result of socialism. That is, while collectivism always results in loss of freedom, its greater danger was that it always leads to national socialism (Nazism) - no matter where it's puts into place.

15 posted on 01/28/2007 10:09:25 AM PST by Chuck Dent
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To: tcostell
another kind of animal altogether.

Is there anything more disorienting than taking Economics 101? Skip it and read Von Mises and Hayek instead.

16 posted on 01/28/2007 10:10:05 AM PST by cornelis
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Here's his apology:
I have arrived at the conviction that the neglect by economists to discuss seriously what is really the crucial problem of our time is due to a certain timidity about soiling their hands by going from purely scientific questions into value questions. This is a belief deliberately maintained by the other side because if they admitted that the issue is not a scientific question, they would have to admit that their science is antiquated and that, in academic circles, it occupies the position of astrology and not one that has any justification for serious consideration in scientific discussion. It seems to me that socialists today can preserve their position in academic economics merely by the pretense that the differences are entirely moral questions about which science cannot decide. Conversation at the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, Washington, D.C. (9 February 1978); published in A Conversation with Friedrich A. Von Hayek: Science and Socialism (1979)

17 posted on 01/28/2007 10:18:02 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Jacquerie

A really great book. Hayek was from Austria, not England

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek


18 posted on 01/28/2007 10:19:45 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: facedown
Thanks for the excellent post on this important book!

One small point. Although Hayek taught for years at the London School of Economics, he was by birth Viennese.

Along with Ludwig von Mises, he was an early exponent of the Austrian school of economic thought. After important early work in economics, he broadened his field of work and wrote on politics and social policy as well.

His last great work, The Fatal Conceit, dates from 1988.

19 posted on 01/28/2007 10:24:18 AM PST by Erasmus (Live was I ere I saw Evil.)
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To: facedown
Thanks for the excellent post on this important book!

One small point. Although Hayek taught for years at the London School of Economics, he was by birth Viennese.

Along with Ludwig von Mises, he was an early exponent of the Austrian school of economic thought. After important early work in economics, he broadened his field of work and wrote on politics and social policy as well.

His last great work, The Fatal Conceit, dates from 1988.

20 posted on 01/28/2007 10:28:34 AM PST by Erasmus (Live was I ere I saw Evil.)
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