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The Road to Serfdom
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Posted on 01/28/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by Jacquerie

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To: TR Jeffersonian

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41 posted on 01/29/2007 8:18:38 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: Bishop_Malachi; hedgetrimmer
Please elaborate...I'm not following you.

What she's saying is that less government control of trade will lead to serfdom at some time in the future. To prevent this we need more government control now. Serfdom now!

42 posted on 01/29/2007 9:08:17 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Jacquerie
The Road to Serfdom, a slim volume, masterfully outlined Hayek's major arguments against socialism. The Constitution of Liberty, written some fifteen years later, provides probably the most complete presentation of Hayek's thought on economics and politics, and is an excellent choice as the other book that must be read if only two of Hayek's works are to be chosen.
43 posted on 01/29/2007 1:21:31 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett
Thank you for the book recommendation. I read Hayek only a few pages per day, just to absorb and fully appreciate his insight. IMO, the best use of 99% of academic published material is birdcage liner.

It is the work of the 1% that can change the course of history.

44 posted on 01/29/2007 2:50:23 PM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: Jacquerie

One of my favorites. I in particular like his comparison of Nazis and Communists. See the 3rd quote on my FReeper profile page, the 2-paragraph one.


45 posted on 01/29/2007 2:53:34 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
Great quote.

The last quote from Chapter II in my post was an eye opener and dovetails with your Hayek observations. I had no idea that 1930's era universities were instilling hatred for western civilization. I assumed it was a phenomena started in the '60s
46 posted on 01/29/2007 3:05:20 PM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: Jacquerie

Fortunately that crap is mostly in the soft disciplines - English, anything with "Science" in the title, diversity degrees, and the sort of nonsense that will get your resume throw to the wastebasket for any position beyond barrista or retail clerk.

Engineering, business, finance, accounting, hard sciences, math, etc., are filled with plenty who still believe in American and Western Exceptionalism.


47 posted on 01/29/2007 3:11:52 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Jacquerie
The two outstanding books in my Library are, The True Believer, and The Road to Serfdom, I have several copies of each which I lend out.
48 posted on 01/29/2007 3:21:33 PM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire.)
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To: Shimmer128

I really don't know but sometime during the history of America. The intro to the version I have by Milton Friedman has a footnote breifly touching on this. There may be more though in there and my memory is just fuzzy.


49 posted on 01/29/2007 6:43:36 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus

Thanks, I'd like to explore this further.


50 posted on 01/29/2007 8:25:01 PM PST by Shimmer128 (Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.)
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To: Jacquerie

We're WELL on our way, look at the difference in the tax burden and hidden taxes in the last 50 years.

Unless you make SERIOUS money, the government pretty much will destroy your dreams.


51 posted on 01/29/2007 8:29:52 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Little Bill

Thanks. I ordered two copies of The True Believer.


52 posted on 01/30/2007 5:35:18 AM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

"Please elaborate...I'm not following you."

"What she's saying is that less government control of trade will lead to serfdom at some time in the future. To prevent this we need more government control now. Serfdom now!



LOL! That's what I thought she(he?) was getting at. Maybe I should stay outta this argument.


53 posted on 01/30/2007 10:38:19 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

She doesn't have an argument. She claims to be a conservative but favors higher tariffs and more government control of the economy.


54 posted on 01/30/2007 10:39:30 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Jacquerie

You won't be disappointed, I first read it in 1962, when I was in High School.


55 posted on 01/30/2007 5:57:42 PM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire.)
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To: sauropod
Pod:

It is obvious Hedgetrimmer never read the damned book.

Bill
56 posted on 01/30/2007 6:05:10 PM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire.)
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To: Little Bill

If he thinks free trade is the problem, he has a lot to learn.


57 posted on 01/30/2007 9:40:16 PM PST by sauropod ( "The View:" A Tupperware party in the 10th circle of Hell.)
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To: Jacquerie

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58 posted on 02/03/2007 6:42:26 AM PST by aberaussie (Ignorance has a cost.)
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To: Chuck Dent
Hayek primary thesis was that what happened in Nazi Germany could happen anywhere ...

Thomas Sowell said the same thing in one of his essays in Black Rednecks and White Liberals.

59 posted on 02/03/2007 8:19:22 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rabscuttle385

You ought definitely to read it, there is nothing like it anywhere in political literature.

Hayek once said (paraphrasing here, and although I think referring to another book) that he was not going to write something full of high flown phrases about things like the dignity of man, since leftists could do that too. His intention was to present arguments that would utterly destroy the arguments for socialism. In this book especially, but in all his writings, he succeeds completely in that endeavor.


60 posted on 02/03/2007 8:33:40 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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