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Well, most cars today, any brand is a pile of plastic, and cheap electronics and hideous design. Obviously my opinion.

So since #1 car manufacturer Toyota also builds hideous, bubbly cars,in my opinion, one can assume the only loyalty is in years of reliable service or perception of that track record.

Since parts are virtually from same suppliers for all car manufacturers, then it can be the no hassle repair/quality customer service that builds brand loyalty.

Lastly, for foreign cars there are no union dues on a car, which I guess is $1500 premium per USA vehicle.

1 posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:17 PM PST by Flavius
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UNION workers and pension plans.


2 posted on 01/24/2007 5:39:07 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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Ford of Michigan or Ford of Tennesse? :)


3 posted on 01/24/2007 5:41:00 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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Sounds like they're not feeling very GAY over at Ford.


4 posted on 01/24/2007 5:41:35 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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and for this they were paying $900,000 per year for Mark Fields to commute to Miami on weekends?
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/18/news/companies/fields_flights/?postversion=2007011814


5 posted on 01/24/2007 5:42:02 PM PST by nascarnation
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Not sure if it means much, but this weekend's auto show in central MA doesn't even show Ford on the floor plan!

Although there are Ford brands- Jag and Land Rover.

www.worcesterautoshow.com

6 posted on 01/24/2007 5:42:54 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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You also pay somewhat more than $500 per vehicle for the insurance premium that the manufacturer has to carry in the USA.

Ford will collapse. Someone else will buy the plant up and continue producing cars... this time without having to support the ridiculous union compensation levels and after firing all the managers that brought the company to this pass. The govt will end up carrying the weight of the ridiculous pensions.


8 posted on 01/24/2007 5:44:21 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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Until ford can bulid a full size pick up worth a dam i will keep buying toyotas every ten years and worry only about gas tires and oil


9 posted on 01/24/2007 5:45:06 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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Well, Ford is still better than the NY Times.


14 posted on 01/24/2007 5:49:46 PM PST by jdm
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Boeing turned it around, so can GM and Ford.


15 posted on 01/24/2007 5:50:25 PM PST by LdSentinal
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...car manufacturer Toyota also builds hideous, bubbly cars...

Chrysler's second nearest bankruptcy came as a result of their designs in the late forties/early fifties. They did extensive surveys about what customers wanted. Looks was far down the list. Chrysler designed the boxy cars that people said they wanted and got laughed at for their efforts.

Maybe Toyota just builds cars that people will buy. Seems to work for them. Buyers like to think about "style" and performance but many buy on price and reliability.

17 posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:19 PM PST by FreePaul
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So spending all that time, effort and money catering to the gay community is really paying off for them?

I guess putting all that time and energy into engineering a reliable, attractive, affordable product didn't seem necessary.

And then there's the unions.

19 posted on 01/24/2007 5:54:09 PM PST by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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Even Edsel didn't screw it up this bad!


24 posted on 01/24/2007 5:57:59 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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My 2002 Ford Mustang is awesome. I've been very happy with Fords.


26 posted on 01/24/2007 5:59:56 PM PST by mysterio
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Wow. I hope they can make it.


29 posted on 01/24/2007 6:03:49 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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It is only a matter of time before Toyota, Honda, and Nissan design and market a pickup that farmers, hunters, and contractors in Indiana, Iowa, and Georgia will buy. When they start replacing their F-150's, Silveradoes, and Rams with imports, the Big Three will have nothing left to stand on. Pickup sales are all they really have left.


33 posted on 01/24/2007 6:10:57 PM PST by ForOurFuture
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Cars are much better and reliable than they used to be, for the most part. However, this is the...worst...commercial...ever.

I cannot believe they're selling that ugly little anonymous car as being"sexy" or "edgy."

34 posted on 01/24/2007 6:23:26 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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My Warm And Fuzzy Feelings For Ford- by Fatcity

I worked for Ford- Engine Plant #1 in Cleveland- for a year, before I volunteered for the draft in 1969. Ran a piston rod grinder and had to grind 9,000 rods a night. When I'd run 5,000, each night, the foreman would come over and adjust the counter to 9,000 and send me up to the cafeteria to play gin for 3 hours. The other 4,000 were known as "paper rods". Being a dumb kid, one day I asked the foreman why we were making "paper rods". He looked at me with hillbilly incredulousness and said, "because they're making piston heads over on the head line"!

The military came as a breath of fresh air.

37 posted on 01/24/2007 6:36:41 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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Buy Ford at $8.20 and prosper. Mullaly is turning around Ford quicker than most people thought. The next couple of years will be tough, but the map has been made, and it is being executed. One thing you can always count on is: When Americans get shoved into a corner, they come out fighting. Ford is America...
41 posted on 01/24/2007 6:40:46 PM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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My Hyundai came with a 100,000 mile drive train warranty and it was cheaper than anything the big 3 had to offer. 70,000 miles later I've had no problems.
I had a '72 Ford Mach I, a '67 Malibu, 90 Chrysler LeBaron and 2 dodge vans '76 and '82.
Neither of them did as well after 70K miles as the Hyundai.
68 posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:23 PM PST by The Brush
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I've owned Fords since I started driving, 30 years ago.

I'm not a blind loaylist, I just thought they made better cars for the money.

I recently needed to replace my 95 Ford Escort. I went to the Ford dealership first. No more Escort. No more Taurus. They've been replaced by smaller models that are bland both inside and out. And they were comparatively pricey. I was very disappointed.

I bought a Honda instead.


85 posted on 01/25/2007 2:12:12 PM PST by kidd
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