Evolution battles caused by politically powerful

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 24, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern | Bob Unruh

[hosepipe]

Can anybody tell me where the 3rd human on earth came from?..

[metmom]

Better, I'd think, to form a common worldview while young than have to start from scratch as an adult confronted with an unwelcome reality.

But that isn't happening anyway, and where attempts are made to do that, the system drops to the lowest common denominator and mediocrity reigns.

There's a huge variety of public, private, Christian, Catholic, and other schools now and your doomsday scenario isn't happening.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[RunningWolf]

Man, who he is, what he is about, his destiny, and all the rest..

..Are not about nor based in Darwinist evolutionary belief's

[Tim Long]

Can anybody tell me where the 3rd human on earth came from?..

Adam and Eve?

...His question seemed easy... almost too easy. : )

[wintertime]

The problem is large centralized schools. NO! Hey in the 1950s AND 60s the Philadelphia Catholic Schools ran a huge centralized system of schools. There wasn't a lot of acrimony about curriculum and school policies.

NO! The problem isn't large centralized schools.

The PROBLEM is having GOVERNMENT own and run schools. So...why is it a problem having government run large centralized school systems, and it isn't a problem for Catholics?

The reason is that the education of the younger never was, is not now, and can never be religiously, culturally, or politically neutral. It can't because some ideas have religious, cultural, and political consequences, and presenting both sides is religiously culturally, or politically offensive to one or both sides. Some examples: ( pro-abotion/anti-abortion, pro-homosexuality/anti- homosexuality, evolution was a natural phenomena/God directed phenomena)

So...the government owns and runs schools, and the government runs smack into the First Amendment. The government WILL support the religious worldview of some groups and trash the religion of others. The government tells the kids to shut up ( violation of free speech). It tells kids when and what it can publish ( violation of free press). It does not allow children to freely assemble but even assigns seats for the children to occupy ( violation of freedom of assembly). And ,,,finally,,,government can NOT present a religious neutral curriculum or enforce neutral school policies.

While the government schools stub their toes on the
First Amendment, the large centralized Catholic schools don't. PRIVATE schools don't because they are FREELY CHOSEN. For many government schools are compulsory. If the student doesn't show up, armed police will soon be at the door. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip)

It is impossible for any government school to be politically, culturally, or religiously neutral. No matter what decisions are made by the government school bureaucrats the government WILL ESTABLISH the religious worldview of some of the students, and actively undermine those of others.

Solution: Begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education. Voucher and tax credits would help. We should use vouchers and tax credits only to move society toward a completely privatized system.

[wintertime]

Sorry, #26 is a tad scrambled. It's late. Time for bed.

[Central Scrutiniser]

I want the Norse creation story taught in schools.

And we need to teach astrology as a science.

And phrenology and dousing and psychics and satanism must have equal time.

[Tim Long]

I want the Norse creation story taught in schools. And we need to teach astrology as a science. And phrenology and dousing and psychics and satanism must have equal time.

Well, we've already got the nonsense you believe taught there, so might as well add the others.

[hosepipe]

[ ...His question seemed easy... almost too easy. : ) ]

Glad to hear that.. Evolving from a pool of chemicals seems bizaar to me..

[tacticalogic]

Humanism. That's what secular means

Main Entry: 1sec·u·lar

Pronunciation: 'se-ky&-l&r
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French seculer, from Late Latin saecularis, from saeculum the present world, from Latin, generation, age, century, world; akin to Welsh hoedl lifetime
1 a : of or relating to the worldly or temporal b : not overtly or specifically religious c : not ecclesiastical or clerical
2 : not bound by monastic vows or rules; specifically : of, relating to, or forming clergy not belonging to a religious order or congregation
3 a : occurring once in an age or a century b : existing or continuing through ages or centuries c : of or relating to a long term of indefinite

Nothing there about Humanism, Brights, or Masons. Secular religion appears to be some kind of Orwellian doublespeak.

[ScubieNuc]

The problem starts when the young adults go into the workplace and find themselves arguing constantly with everyone around them over everything, each believing what they were taught, seeing others as ill-informed.

I don't see your point. People in the workforce always disagree with one anonther and think that they were better educated then the other.

The fact of the matter is that in the "hard" sciences, it doesn't matter what your origins belief is to be able to do excellent work. I work with chemists and engineers who have differing origins beliefs, but still perform their jobs.

I can only think of one place, off hand, where origins beliefs create a big stir....Academia. In the real world of working science, origins beliefs doesn't really matter, either way.

Sincerely

[Elsie]

A new study is blaming the monolithic public school system ...

Watch it!

That's real close to MONOPOLY and we KNOW that THEY are bad for General BullMoose!

[Luis Gonzalez]

[Luis Gonzalez]

I want the Hyborean age included in my kid's history classes, and more studies on the impact of Conan the Barbarian on modern European culture.

[editor-surveyor]

It's from the latin word for humanity.

[tacticalogic]

It's from the latin word for humanity.

That doesn't explain the apparent contradiction in terms, based on the definition of "secular".

[editor-surveyor]

The contradiction is in your perception.

Religion, at it's root is 'secular,' since it comes from the mind of man rather than from God. Religion is man's attempt to squirm away from, or modify God's laws.

[tacticalogic]

The contradiction is in your perception.

Somehow I doubt that find contradiction in the idea of "non-religious religion" is a problem with my perception.

[editor-surveyor]

Enjoy your self-imposed confusion.