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It's hard to hate entirely reasonable Hillary
The Sunday Times ^ | January 21, 2007 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 01/21/2007 6:19:55 AM PST by NCjim

Among my many guilty pleasures — bad reality television, solitary nose excavation, the Fox News Channel — hating Hillary Clinton was once near the top of the list. The senator from New York somehow managed to arouse every one of my love-to-hate zones.

She was a self-righteous feminist (boo) who married her way to power (double-plus-boo). She wanted to turn American medicine into the National Health Service (grrr) and all her friends were wealthy lawyers (triple eye-roll). She was Lady Macbeth when she wasn’t some goo-goo liberal ideologue.

There were as many ways to despise her as she had hairstyles. Then we even got to hate her hairstyles as well. One of my most treasured moments editing The New Republic in the 1990s was publishing a cover story by Camille Paglia on Hillary called “Ice Queen, Drag Queen”. Ah, those were the days.

She can still provoke something of the same response. A while back I was musing with Pat Buchanan, the old Republican warhorse, about the parlous state of his party. “Only one thing can save us now,” he grumbled. “And it’s Hillary.”

Even her allies loathe her. Two years ago David Geffen, the billionaire Democrat, told a New York crowd: “She can’t win and she’s an incredibly polarising figure. Ambition is just not a good enough reason.” She is currently fourth in those too-early-by-a-year polls in Iowa. And if you miss seeing an unflattering photograph of her, just check the Drudge Report. Before too long, one will probably pop up. And I’ll find myself in a wave of nostalgia.

Why am I having a hard time keeping the wave afloat? The answer is relatively simple. Clinton has been an almost painfully reasonable, centrist, sensible senator. I’d like to hate her but she’s foiling me every time.

Take the Iraq war. She voted for it but with shrewd reservations. “If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us,” she told the Senate before voting to give Bush authorisation. “For all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.” In retrospect those were wise words — but they are not helping her now with an increasingly anti-war Democratic base, especially since she continues to refuse to disown her vote.

Or take her recent manoeuvring over what the Pentagon had called a “surge” and last week was calling “plus-up” in Iraq. She opposed the new plan but did so in a written statement before jetting off to see the troops. She is close to David Petraeus, the gifted general who has been tasked with calming the non-Sadrite parts of Baghdad with a handful of troops.

Her critics call this calculation. Arianna Huffington says Clinton reeks of the scent of fear. John Edwards’s campaign, which has staked out the strongest anti-war stance, has already tried to reinforce this perception. Edwards recently charged, in a veiled reference to Clinton: “If you’re in Congress and you know that this war is going in the wrong direction, it is no longer enough to study your options and keep your own counsel.”

Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s aide, responded a little touchily: “In 2004 John Edwards used to constantly brag about running a positive campaign. Today he has unfortunately chosen to open his campaign with political attacks on Democrats who are fighting the Bush administration’s Iraq policy.”

Is Clinton “fighting” the Bush administration’s Iraq policy or trying to ameliorate it? Both, I’d say. It’s a perfectly rational position for a grown-up politician to take. When you consider her statements as a whole throughout a confusing, dynamic, dangerous war, what comes across is reasonableness and responsibility. “I am cursed with the responsibility gene. I am. I admit to that,” she told The New York Times last week. “

You’ve got to be very careful in how you proceed with any combat situation in which American lives are at stake.”

Quite so. But the line between prudence and calculation can be a thin one. And at times the centrism seems almost pathological. Here she is explaining her foreign policy philosophy to The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Goldberg: “We can critique the idealists, who have an almost faith-based idealism without adequate understanding or evidence-based decision making, and we can critique the realists for rejecting the importance of aspiration and values in foreign policy. You know, I find myself, as I often do, in the somewhat lonely middle.”

There are two things to say about that. The first is that she shouldn’t use “critique” as a verb. The second is that it’s very hard to disagree with her. The question in American foreign policy should never be whether one is a realist or an idealist. It should always be which blend of each is appropriate in the face of any specific challenge. I have no doubt, for example, that the first Bush administration in 1988-92 was too realist; and that the second one, which we are currently enduring, is too idealist. But who do we trust to get the balance right in the future? Hillary is essentially saying that we should trust her. She is giving us a clear signal of what a second Clinton administration would be like: all the centrism and responsibility of her husband’s eight years but without any of the charm.

Is that what Americans want? It seems that what they want is a form of escapism (in the form of Edwards), charisma (in the shape of Barack Obama), or integrity (in the guise of John McCain). But when the decision nears and the stakes, especially abroad, begin to seep in, might Hillary be right? Might they actually be yearning for dullness, competence and responsibility? Americans historically elect presidents who are an antidote to the flaws of the previous one. Nixon begat Carter who begat Reagan. When you think of George W Bush, the word “reckless” springs to mind. And what is the antidote to reckless? “I am cursed with the responsibility gene,” said a candidate last week. She may be revealing extremely good political instincts. Or she may, of course, be calculating again.

Dammit. Hating her was much easier.


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To: NCjim
A couple of things are for sure. We cannot trust Sullivan's judgment on Iraq or Hillary.
61 posted on 01/21/2007 7:50:14 AM PST by elhombrelibre (After 9/11, Bush went to war with terrorists and their supporters. Democrats war against him.)
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To: NCjim
It's hard to hate entirely reasonable Hillary

I don't seem to have this problem, Mr. Sullivan. Perhaps there's some sort of counseling or encounter group that can help you with this.

62 posted on 01/21/2007 7:53:32 AM PST by kidd
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To: NCjim

yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,til she has ya killed


63 posted on 01/21/2007 7:54:04 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: NCjim
The first is that she shouldn’t use “critique” as a verb

I thought I was the only person in the world who knew that.

64 posted on 01/21/2007 7:54:14 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: stm

I'd rather learn he picks his nose than find out he likes Hillary.


65 posted on 01/21/2007 7:58:36 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: NCjim

Simple game plan for the Democrates (1)put Hillary in office. And (2)let Bill call the shots,(3)Let Iran have nuclear weapons and blame it the Republicans.


66 posted on 01/21/2007 8:12:16 AM PST by MATSEVAH (MATSEVAH)
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To: NCjim

Typical of liberals, weighing the various reasons to hate someone. They are so kind and caring!


67 posted on 01/21/2007 8:12:51 AM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: NCjim

She had him at, "Let's chat!"


68 posted on 01/21/2007 8:19:35 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: TYVets
Detest is a better word?

I'd like to add "abhor" to the list.

69 posted on 01/21/2007 8:21:28 AM PST by bannie
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To: NCjim

Even if she saved 10 orphans and 12 kittens from a burning building, I'd still hate her.


70 posted on 01/21/2007 8:22:24 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: LtdGovt
The new surge might just force her to show her real colors.

Her real colors would blind us with their horribleness. They'd have to make special glasses for us to wear for the event!

71 posted on 01/21/2007 8:22:57 AM PST by bannie
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To: NCjim

I don't hate her,I just don't want her!


72 posted on 01/21/2007 8:25:31 AM PST by JOE43270 (JV43270 God Bless America and ALL WHO HAVE and WILL DEFEND HER.)
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To: NCjim

First off, Hillary needs some serious shampooing. She always looks so skanky.

Next, Hillary needs some speech lessons in order to bring her speaking voice above that of a kindergarten teacher.



73 posted on 01/21/2007 8:31:43 AM PST by abclily
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To: moose2004
"A while back I was musing with Pat Buchanan, the old Republican warhorse, about the parlous state of his party."

Why does the MSM always quote this FORMER member of the GOP?

That's right, Pat left the GOP in 2000 for "the house that Ross built." As far as I know, he hasn't been invited back into the "big tent."

As for the MSM always quoting him, they do so when it's convienent: e.g., when he's attacking the president, the Iraq war, or Israel.

74 posted on 01/21/2007 8:34:02 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: NCjim

Oh Gee, a "Conservative" has been turned in PravdABDNC; how predictable. Wonder when she wrote that for him and publishes it just this weekend. How convenient. HilaryCare really isn't that bad...

Pray for W and Our Troops


75 posted on 01/21/2007 8:34:08 AM PST by bray (Redeploy to Iran)
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To: SERKIT
"I don't recall"

I'd love someone to run an ad with a score or two of Hillary!™ "I don't recall" "I don't remember" replies, then blandly say that Alzheimer's didn't disqualify Reagan, why should it disqualify Hillary!™?

76 posted on 01/21/2007 8:42:56 AM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: abclily
Next, Hillary needs some speech lessons in order to bring her speaking voice above that of a kindergarten teacher.

There's her other mode - screech...

77 posted on 01/21/2007 8:44:41 AM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: abclily; retrokitten
Next, Hillary needs some speech lessons in order to bring her speaking voice above that of a kindergarten teacher.

Dolores Umbridge.


78 posted on 01/21/2007 8:49:45 AM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: NCjim
Hillary is essentially saying that we should trust her.

I trust her just about as far as I could throw Sandy Berger. I never thought much about her until she stood up on the floor of the Senate with that headline, "Bush Knew" and demanding an investigation of 9/11. That was sickening enough in its political pandering, but then to send in Berger to destroy any evidence about Clinton was just the height of corruption. Trust her? NEVER.

79 posted on 01/21/2007 8:54:31 AM PST by DejaJude
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To: NCjim
Was 'Lady MacBeth?' I can't think of a more appropriate comparison...with my apologies to Shakespeare!
80 posted on 01/21/2007 8:55:39 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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