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1 posted on 01/19/2007 2:36:00 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: areafiftyone

Pass me a flame suit, please.:-)


2 posted on 01/19/2007 2:36:58 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies

Too bad. The selection sucks. Newt is the only true conservative in the list. What a mess.


3 posted on 01/19/2007 2:40:09 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Dark Skies

I posted this before, but my sentiments are the same:

Newt seems to have some mojo.

He's been polling second and third in many of the primary states recently, and is almost always within a few points of #1.

Here, he polls in third place NATIONALLY, just six points behind McCain and well within striking distance of Rudy.

Not bad for a guy who hasn't even declared yet.

I'm beginning to believe Newt Gingrich could win the nomination if he doesn't wait too long. I mean think about it: he's within striking distance without even declaring. Relatively speaking, he's bascially absent from the news; and the top two guys (Rudy and McCain) are in the news every day, more often than not with high laudits and adulations (Liberal Press loves them - possible exception of NY Times, which has permanent personal beef with Rudy).

With respect to solid Conservative and good guy Duncan Hunter, could Newt actually wind up being the guy from the right? He's Conservative enough for the SoCons, fiscally sound, and has an impressive Congressional record and record of winning. Sure, at the start there will be some to whom only one certain SoCon of their personal choice is at all acceptable and everyone else is a fraud, blah blah blah....But Newt seems like one possibility of a guy who could be at least acceptable to nearly all GOPers.

I don't know. Who knows if he'll even run. But from my observation, he looks to be in VERY good shape if he does.

And yes, despite what anyone wants to tell you, Newt can win. Anyone who thinks he can't better stop telling you to fear Hillary, as if she automatically can.

I stand by my new dream ticket:
Newt Gingrich/Rudy Giuliani.

Unites both sides of the base, with a decent outreach to the undecideds and Moderates out there. It gives Rudy a chance to build some Conservative street cred for a future Presidential run, if he truly intends to convert. Lets us see how Rudy handles the fire at the national level, when he's a target and not just the adored "America's Mayor." Newt has been through every possible fire imaginable, and look at him rise.

Truly, I think Gingrich/Giuliani ("Two Gs - for Good Government!") would be a very formidable ticket, and one that brings back the currently divided factions of our party.

It's along way away for anyone to predict who'll win. But I hope it's Gingrich/Giuliani, especially if no other Conservative rises enough to challenge the three-headed monster in the primaries.


4 posted on 01/19/2007 2:43:05 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: Dark Skies

Giuliani...gag...McCain...wretch...


5 posted on 01/19/2007 2:45:37 PM PST by stevem
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To: Dark Skies

I don't like many of Rudys liberal social stances BUT I would support him in a N.Y. minute before I'd EVER back McCain.

And I am a very conservative REAGAN Republican.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 3:14:09 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Dark Skies
Personally, I like Giuliani. I don't agree with him on a variety of issues, but, he was able to clean up NYC and told that Saudi Prince shmuck where to stuff it with the 10 million dollar check he offered after 911. Gotta love it. He comes across as a real man, not some pseudo MSM creation, like Obama or a political has been like Clinton, or a Manchurian candidate like McCain. I would venture to say that a lot of Americans might be seeing the same qualities.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/11/rec.giuliani.prince/index.html

"Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Thursday the city would not accept a $10 million donation for disaster relief from Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal after the prince suggested U.S. policies in the Middle East contributed to the September 11 attacks."
25 posted on 01/19/2007 3:51:39 PM PST by khnyny
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To: Dark Skies

Newt is doing well, considering that a month ago he wouldn't even be included in the list. Raising his profile early and absence of reasonable acceptable alternatives should help him make up his mind on whether to run and get some feeling for financial and campaign backing.


26 posted on 01/19/2007 3:55:30 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Dark Skies
I like Guiliani as a person and as mayor of New York, but still prefer Duncan Hunter for President.

He is a Reagan style Republican.

48 posted on 01/19/2007 4:34:06 PM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Dark Skies

Anybody but McCain.


56 posted on 01/19/2007 5:07:15 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Defeat the traitor McCain for President. Job #1.)
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To: Dark Skies
We're doomed.

At least a President Hillary! will once again unite the Republican party in a common cause.

Viva La Revolution!

64 posted on 01/19/2007 5:24:34 PM PST by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: Dark Skies

This field is bleak. Newt is the only conservative and he comes with "the baggage". It seems that the losses for Santorum and Allen knocked them out of the race, but at this stage - and with this kind of selection - I say bring 'em on. What have we got to lose; PA would be a nice electoral lynchpin.

Forget the political protocols. I'd love to see the look on McCain's face when Santorum kills his bid in SC.


98 posted on 01/19/2007 6:09:08 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Lord, help your poor and faithful servant to remain faithful,...though not necessarily poor.")
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I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.


121 posted on 01/19/2007 6:48:00 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Dark Skies
You should have added BARF ALERT to this thread. The only guy that is solid on this list is Newt Gingrich, and I just do not see him getting the nomination.

If these are the Republicans, then we are in big trouble. They are all, except for Newt, liberal. I just feel like conservatives are no longer represented even thought we are probably the majority in this country.

I feel like I want my money back concerning George Bush. He only has done two things correct.... The War on Terror (although I have a few issues in this field, but overall its a good response) and the tax cut. That is it. I am truly concerned with what is happening to this great nation.
128 posted on 01/19/2007 6:56:52 PM PST by Sprite518
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