Video of Border Patrol Agents Turning Themselves in

KVIA ^ | 01/17/07

[Ladycalif]

L PASO, Tx. - Two former El Paso Border Patrol agents reported to federal officials Wednesday afternoon to start their prison sentence.

Ignacio Ramos turned himself into federal officials in downtown El Paso shortly before 2pm Wednesday afternoon. Former agent Jose Compean turned himself in a short time later.

[Steve Van Doorn]

”In order to maintain the rule of law, federal prosecutors cannot look the other way when law enforcement officers shoot unarmed suspects who are running away, then lie about it to their supervisors and file official reports that are false.”

Waco

[stopem]

POSTS 56,57,58

Thanks! Good comebacks. Maybe they will take pause before posting Dem-like nonsense.

[Ladycalif]

If it were a war zone we could shoot back!

More like a Border Patrol Shooting Gallery

[archy]

CWII Ping. Ghost of Travis haunting us all...

Not quite yet. But he's in better company and a relatively safer AO now that he's out of San Diego and relocated to Florida.

[archy]

U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton and George Bush go back a long way. He was a member of his administration in Texas and a member of the Bush transition team in 2000.

-more-:

Prior to becoming United States Attorney, Mr. Sutton served as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and as a Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Cheney Transition Team assigned to the Department of Justice.

Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000, advising the Governor on all criminal justice issues, with specific oversight in the areas of criminal law, prison capacity and management, parole operations and legislative initiatives.

Prior to his service in the Governor’s office, Mr. Sutton worked as a criminal trial prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s Office (Houston, Texas) for eight years. As a prosecutor, he was lead trial counsel in over sixty felony cases, including numerous capital murder, aggravated robbery, and sexual assault cases. He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.

[highball]

I'd really like for you to explain to me exactly what is going on down on the border in regards to enforcing the law. You seem to be such an expert, after all.

Where did I say that?

These two cops were dirty. They lied to cover up their own actions, which makes them unfit to serve.

In the end, it wouldn't matter if they were border patrol, FBI, or NYPD - we need our cops to be honest, first and foremost. It's a dirty job, and for that reason we need the men who do it to be clean. These guys don't qualify, and dishonored their service.

[jmc813]

Honest question...Does it get frustrating being in the minuscule minority of opinion for almost every single topic here on FR?

[jmc813]

Dane - The lonestartimes.com is even lame by your standards.

This guy ain't Dane. Dane is more conservative.

[Centurion2000]

Can you cite the amendment, clause or phrase that gives illegal aliens protection under the US Contitution?

I hate to say it.

Amendment XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[san juan]

Sorry, but under our law, an illegal on our soil, is protected by the 4th amendment.


Border Searches .--''That searches made at the border, pursuant to the longstanding right of the sovereign to protect itself by stopping and examining persons and property crossing into this country, are reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the border, should, by now, require no extended demonstration.'' 87 Authorized by the First Congress, 88 the customs search in these circumstances requires no warrant, no probable cause, not even the showing of some degree of suspicion that accompanies even investigatory stops. 89 Moreover, while prolonged detention of travelers beyond the routine customs search and inspection must be justified by the Terry standard of reasonable suspicion having a particularized and objective basis, 90 Terry protections as to the length and intrusiveness of the search do not apply. 91

[neverhillorat]

Sorry, but the Supremes have ruled that once you are in the country, a person is covered by our laws. That`s why we are keeping the terrorists we caught in Afghanistan at Gitmo and why those fleeing Castro can be sent back if they don`t touch our shores. Illegals can be deported, but, while they are in the US, they are covered. That isn`t written into the Constitution but, like so many other things, the Courts have ruled its implied.

[neverhillorat]

Does the things you cited give Border Patrol agents the right to use deadly force in non threatening situations? Of course not, because if they had that right, these two clowns wouldn`t have tried to cover up their actions.

[PRND21]

The lonestartimes.com is even lame by your standards.

Sources are lame? So are your tactics.

[PRND21]

Honest question...Does it get frustrating being in the minuscule minority of opinion for almost every single topic here on FR?

Honest observation...you resort to such sophmoric tactics everytime you are shown wrong.

Continue defending the agents or pout at someone else.

[firewalk]

How confident is Bush that in two years we will have forgotten this?

Why would President Bush care about that?

[Ajnin]

Alright, sorry for being an AH.

What exactly makes you think these guys are dirty? In other words where are you getting your information.

[Ajnin]

Sorry, but the Supremes have ruled that once you are in the country, a person is covered by our laws. That`s why we are keeping the terrorists we caught in Afghanistan at Gitmo and why those fleeing Castro can be sent back if they don`t touch our shores. Illegals can be deported, but, while they are in the US, they are covered. That isn`t written into the Constitution but, like so many other things, the Courts have ruled its implied.

Do you have a source?

[highball]

What exactly makes you think these guys are dirty? In other words where are you getting your information.

They tried to cover up the shooting. They lied.

Honest cops deserve our support to the end. Dishonest cops don't deserve a badge.

[Ajnin]

Does the things you cited give Border Patrol agents the right to use deadly force in non threatening situations? Of course not, because if they had that right, these two clowns wouldn`t have tried to cover up their actions.

See here's the problem. You believe everything the US Attorney has put forth. I don't and it is because the government often punishes innocent Agents. The Ramos/Campeanos case would just be the most egregious example if their case was overturned on appeal. Other problems are the incoherent press releases coming from USA Johnny Sutton's office. If Sutton's case had any merit he shouldn't have to grab at so many straws.

[neverhillorat]

Well, thanks for the insight. I should have known that its the US Attorneys that lie, not the Border Patrolmen that were caught in several lies. I should have also figured out that the President was bored one afternoon and decided he wanted to add some spice to his life and screw up two innocent Border Patrolmen.
Please help with this, after shooting the Illegal in the back/butt, why didn`t the BP agents walk over and arrest the man. According to them, he was knocked to the ground by one of their rounds, was alone, and there were two of them? Why no arrest? Doesn`t pass the smell test.