Posted on 01/17/2007 3:14:39 PM PST by pissant
WASHINGTON - While it is not unprecedented for a president to be ostracized by Congress, abandoned by even most of his own party's members, it's still pretty rare.
It was a delegation of congressional Republicans who convinced Richard Nixon that his days were numbered and that it was time to step down.
Certainly Gerald Ford was not in a comparable situation after his pardon of Nixon, but many Republicans on Capitol Hill were still dismayed by the move, although Ford's decision to grant clemency to Nixon has been vindicated by history, and he was given his due at his recent funeral services.
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It is not far-fetched to see upwards of 60 or 65 senators and 250 House members voting for such a resolution. Under such a scenario, Bush would suffer a stunning repudiation on what has become his signature policy and, for better or worse, the legacy for his presidency.
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"The most consequential President since Reagan"
You might want to raise the bar a bit....
Well, that's the bar that history has presented.
I still support President Bush; feel sorry for those who don't.
Look in the mirror for that accusation.
They, like Bush, support illegal immigration/scamnesty.
They, like Bush, support McCain/Feingold.
They, like Bush, support big increases in the education bureaucracy.
They, like Bush, support welfare meds under Medicare for seasoned citizens.
You cannot claim logically that Bush is for national security when he allows the southern border to disappear on his watch.
Before you call me spineless, consider what the hell you're defending. A RINO.
LOL, hyperbole.
I support him in WRT the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do not support him WRT the WOT on the US/Mexico border. His administration is allowing countless numbers of terrorists to enter this country across that border, undoing a significant amount of the protective good he's doing overseas.
I stand by George Bush. I do not in any way agree with everything he does, but in the most important issue to me the war on terrorism, he is head and shoulders above anyone else out there.
I would not call him a great boneless wonder. He was the one at the top on 9/11, and I think that weighs pretty heavily on him.
You are entitled to your opinion. I think it is wrong, and to call him a "boneless wonder" after all he has been through is a specious insult. You can call him a lot of things, that is not one of them.
"Well, that's the bar that history has presented."
Bill Clinton
George HW Bush
These are not great men worthy of comparison. If I thought GWB was a great president, these two would not be the ones I used to highlight his greatness.
History has presented many great presidents. George W. Bush, sadly, will not be among them when not too distant future historians look back and see Iraq in the hands of thugs, a legacy of government expansion, and an ever-increasing tax burden, and a country balkanized by unchecked immigration.....and there will probably still be freepers still making exuses why it's not his fault.
Ok. Nice talking points, now think it thru a bit.
Bush signed the border fence bill, from the security first wing of the GOP
Bush signed the worthless, ineffective McCain Feingold as part of a deal to get McCain to back him for president in 2000. It saved us from Algore. Count your lucky stars.
Education, he faltered, big time.
Bush campaigned heavily on prescription drug benefits added to medicare. He did what he said he would do.
Blaming Bush for the Southern border is like blaming Ronald Reagan for communism.
So, keep listening to the Michael Savages of the world and pretty soon you'll sound like a shrill leftist too.
I just sent an email to Senator McConnel telling him now more than ever we need his strength and leadership. I told him he should expell Hagel from the republican caucus over this, and that any republican senator who votes in favor of this outrage should be immediately removed from any ranking chairmanship they may hold. Hagel is a disgrace for doing this. Rather than work to unite the country against the enemy, he is working to unite the country against the President. It is shameful behavior. Cut and run, defeat. Hagel will be praised by Al Sadr and AQ for this and he can bask in the glory of praise from our enemy.
What will you say when he signs the amnesty bill into law?
How do you feel about the two border guards that Bush will not pardon,the ones who shot the illegal alien drug smuggler coming across the border?
Your rhetoric doesn't add anything.
The southern border disappeared "on his watch"? I don't know where you have been, but the southern border disappeared decades ago. Can you point to a time when border control was actually enforced?
There is no shortage of politicians who say one thing and mean another. President Bush is not one of those. You may disagree with what he says, but the vast majority of the time he means what he says, and is, for the most part, up front about it. That makes him unpopular with some people. They just want to hear rhetoric that makes them FEEL like something is being done, even if there is no intention. Pretty shallow, if you ask me.
I disagree with him on immigration and CFR legislation, but I think he has done a fine job prosecuting the first sets of battles in this war. A lot of people don't seem to think that is very important right now, because we haven't had any tall buildings falling down lately. The attention span of the American public, and many on this board is dangerously short.
On top of that...our troops believe without a doubt the msm are the enemy........
If Iraq isn't off the front pages by Election Day, there will be vetoproof Rat majorities in both houses of Congress, no matter if we win the Presidency or not.
>>>Some seem to be suprised that GW is giving in to the left in America. I think it is more of a situation that he is coming home now to his roots.<<<
Yes. My wife thinks he is a trojan horse: a lefty pretending to be a conservative. I agree.
I am proudly standing with the President as well!
Whistle past the graveyard if you wish. Do some in-depth analysis of the costs (not just monetary) of the illegal flood...it's not hyperbole. But, each to his own.
The Republican members of Congress think that there will be no downside for abandoning Bush. Senator Brownback thinks that a conservative/pro al quida message will win him the nomination. I think that they are wrong and we will see the Republicans take even bigger hits in 2008. Very bad for the county, but may be what it takes to purge Washington of these self absorbed, gutless wonders.
Maybe. But he makes it harder every day.
There is no issue more important now than winning the war. Any other issue is a distant second. Losing it will bring pure hell on America for years to come, making 9-11 look like a picnic. And eventually a world war that will make the current battle look like a wrestling match.
With that in mind, one has to wonder why this President, who should have no other focus than that war, continues to abuse his dwindling slate of supporters with stupid hardheaded positions like amnesty and abandonment of the border patrol agents and siding with the new Democrat majority on spending and education and tax increases.
When you need every bit of help you can get you can't tell your supporters in the public and the Congress to stuff it. I think the President has isolated himself from reality with a bunch of insiders like Karl Rove and Dan Bartlett and Tony Snow who don't have a clue about mainstream America.
Years from now historians will wonder how a President would abandon his supporters when he needed their help so desparately.
"The most consequential President since Reagan."
Good lord. Talk about damning with faint praise. There've only been three presidents since Reagan.
I am as well. And I am more than happy to disassociate myself, be it by vote or contribution, to those who abandon him.
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