Russia confirms it has delivered missile systems to Iran

The Boston Globe ^ | 1-17-2006 | Guy Faulconbridge

[RusIvan]

Putin's actions make him an enemy of the free world.==

I just wanted you to recall our discussions about the deployment the defensive missiles in Poland. When Russia objected this you and other hawks told that it is the defensive wepons isn't it? SO same as the TOR-1. But the range of TOR-1 is only 25 km.

Seem like you refuses Putin to do think which you do yourself:).

[M. Espinola]

"It does, he is, and when the hell is the world, or at least America, going to call him on it??..just like stopping Imanutjob, stopping Putin is long overdue."

Unfortunately, the way the situation is on Capitol Hill we are stuck with waiting for Putin to make the first overtly aggressive move, which in time could conceivably transpire in an ultra-rash move against Israel, and or the Persian Gulf region, if Putin mistakenly thought openly siding with allies Syria & Iran would be to his benefit.

Reflecting on the era of the the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, today's Putin-Ahmadinejad Pact will hopefully result in a similar stab in the back, as in evil attacking evil.

In terms of only Iran's case, as well as Syria's, the corrective plan is already in motion.

[Androcles]

Too true but too many on here are blind to that. All nations in the arms trade (including us) have muck on their hands.

Personally, I have no problem with anti-air defensive installations. They're legitimate national interest purchases. Any nation can make a legitimate case for the purchase of them. THe ones that alarm me are the offensive ones.

[M. Espinola]

"We might consider giving Ukraine and Georgia "defensive" or "short-range missles" - it might help Putin understand the dangers of screwing with us - of course, the Dems, MSM and ACLU are all against us also and it will take some spine to promote that policy..."

Every former Soviet captive nation we should be arming, placing KGB Putin on notice 'do not even think about it'.

As far as the radical Dems they most likely love Putin, and any other tyrant for that matter, who according to them, 'stands up to Bush'.

[RusIvan]

Reflecting on the era of the the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, today's Putin-Ahmadinejad Pact will hopefully result in a similar stab in the back, as in evil attacking evil.==

I understand your wish. But russian proverb says:"Do not dig the hol for otherone or you fall there first".

Accually the main misunderstaning of russian policy on ME is Israel. For Russia Israel isn't the holy cow. So in fight between Israel and muslims for Jerusalim Russia stays aside. She sells weponry to muslim because they ar epaying. If Israel wanted to buy russian wepon, Russia would sell them with pleasure.

[RusIvan]

Every former Soviet captive nation we should be arming, placing KGB Putin on notice 'do not even think about it'.==

Think about what?:)) Seems to me that you live with past. Russia just needs that those countries payed Russia in full for her merchandise. That is only think which she is interested today.
If they pay in full then Russia is satisfied. Otherwise Russia has no interests in them whatsoever.

[M. Espinola]

I just wanted you to recall our discussions about the deployment the defensive missiles in Poland. When Russia objected this you and other hawks told that it is the defensive wepons isn't it? SO same as the TOR-1. But the range of TOR-1 is only 25 km. That's real interesting, I suppose when Moscow carved up Poland with the Nazis - that was okay?

The Poles need all the protection they can acquire when it comes to the Comrade Putin.

With Putin arming Iran's jihadist killers, he is attempting to do what he failed in Iraq. If it was up to Putin Saddam would still be ruling Iraq.

Tell me again, how many Russian drivers assisted in removing Saddam's WMD's to Syria?

"Seem like you refuses Putin to do think which you do yourself:)."

That's termed a strategy for defeating the enemy behind our enemies.......

[M. Espinola]

"Think about what?:)) Seems to me that you live with past. Russia just needs that those countries payed Russia in full for her merchandise. That is only think which she is interested today. If they pay in full then Russia is satisfied. Otherwise Russia has no interests in them whatsoever."

Sure Comrade, whatever you say - has been approved by the Kremlin :)

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

At the risk of sounding arrogant, the combination of Russian technology and Iranian training and operation is not a sure fire recipe for success.

Like Iraq, they can acquire more hardware than they can safely operate. Their strong suit is the car bomb in the market place, not complex modern warfare.

Saddam had lots of modern Russian hardware, for all the good it did him. The Iranians couldn't even beat the Iraqi military.

I'd be a lot more concerned about the ability of our military operating under ludicrously PC rules of engagement to clear the Hormuz Peninsula of Iranian anti-ship missiles.

[SeaBiscuit]

Well, I know one thing, it seems Putin has turned Russia's Afghan mistake on it's ear..

[pieceofthepuzzle]

"I understand they are thinking of changing the name of that particular element to Putinium 201."

I love it!

[RusIvan]

Tell me again, how many Russian drivers assisted in removing Saddam's WMD's to Syria?==

Since no proves that Saddm WMd eveb been moved to Syria then you question is illogical.

"Seem like you refuses Putin to do think which you do yourself:)."

That's termed a strategy for defeating the enemy behind our enemies.......==

So you admit that you biased against Russia? America may sell the defensive weapons to Poland but Russia is refused to sell the defensive weapon to Iran?

[F.J. Mitchell]

"Russia", different name but same old USSR pain in the @$$ of progress.

[RusIvan]

Sure Comrade, whatever you say - has been approved by the Kremlin :)==

Cheap argument:). Accually it is the prove that you are out of the logical argumentation:).

[F.J. Mitchell]

Is this you Mr. Gorbachev ?

[RusIvan]

Is this you Mr. Gorbachev ?==

"A baby by birth, an old codger by the proccess of aging." - seems it is true:)

[M. Espinola]

"At the risk of sounding arrogant, the combination of Russian technology and Iranian training and operation is not a sure fire recipe for success."

Well taken point and I agree.

In terms of Putin's Kremlin, it's a rerun of the Soviet period when one reviews 'old Soviet client states, such as Syria still being equipped with Russian weapons of all sorts.

The Iranian dilemma due to the extremely unstable nature of the jihadist régime is made far worse since Moscow is giving Tehran the ability to at least attempt to counter the inevitable military showdown, which may very well involve naval conflict in and around the geostrategic petroleum sea-lanes of the Strait of Hormuz.

In fact the Tor-M1 is an advanced anti-aircraft system that can identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously, at altitudes of up to 6,000 meters.

Both Iran & Syria continue infiltrating trained Islamist killers into Iraq and have murdered our troops, that alone is more then justified reasoning for a monumental pay back.

It was Iran behind the murders of 231 Marines in Lebanon.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Okay, but is that a yes or a no. :~)

[M. Espinola]

"Since no proves that Saddm WMd eveb been moved to Syria then you question is illogical."

Since the question is "illogical" by neo-Soviet standards under Comrade Putin's rule, does this mean I will be sent to Siberia for reeducation?

"So you admit that you biased against Russia?"

Who me? Does this mean more vacations in Siberia? Oy!~lol

"America may sell the defensive weapons to Poland but Russia is refused to sell the defensive weapon to Iran?"

Bingo! That's it! You are absolutely correct comrade. Now we do not want the boys in the Kremlin getting any of those 1939 ideas when it comes to little cross border excursions rolling over the Polish border - opps... the old version of the Polish border. Somehow that border got pushed further eastward as in the direction of Moscow. Well, we shall not discuss that point at this time.

[Doctor13]

Where were the voices of outrage when Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base?

Iran was sending in arms and insurgents into Bosnia to fight the Christian Serbs and everybody fell for Clinton's lies regarding the war in the Balkans.

Bottom line. We destroyed a Christian people in order to appease the Muslim world, a world that cannot be appeased until all Christians and non-Muslims are either subjugated (dhimmitude)or dead. And that is what is happening today to the Serbs in Kosovo. Because of our stupid, ignorant and ill-advised plan to turn Serbia's Kosovo, their Jerusalem, over to a bunch of Muslim war criminals, Serbian language, culture and religion are being eradicated by Albanian mobs with the help of our good friends, the Kosovo Liberation Army, an army that is engaged in sex slavery, prostitution, murder, kidnapping and drugs. The KLA has now been morphed into The Kosovo Peace Corps - which is a joke. Same people. Same guns. Same Muslim war criminals.

If the Albanian mobs get their independence as some in Congress are advocating, Kosovo will become another rogue jihadist state in the belly of Europe.

See: Kristallnacht in Kosovo.