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A rabbi's warning to U.S. Christians
worldnet via virtueonline ^ | 1. 13. 07 | Rabbi Daniel Lapin

Posted on 01/14/2007 4:53:30 PM PST by freedomdefender

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21 posted on 01/14/2007 5:18:44 PM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks boat steersman hell)
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To: freedomdefender

A very interesting list:

"long list of anti-Christian books that have been published in recent monthsall from mainstream publishers:"

The author of this fine article should have included the names of the authors of these vile books.

"American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America"

"The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us"

"The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason"

"Piety & Politics: The Right-wing Assault on Religious Freedom"

"Atheist Universe: The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism"

"Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts the Faith and Threatens America"

"Religion Gone Bad: The Hidden Dangers of the Christian Right"


22 posted on 01/14/2007 5:19:05 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: RegulatorCountry

Did I say that, RC?

I think my set-in-concrete position is "fatalistic, but chirpy."

There is hope, but it's not rational hope. That's okay, because I'm not rational :-). Anoreth will marry the cute Cuban boy from church and have 14 children, and Patrick will colonize the moons of Jupiter. I'll get a tasteful monument in the churchyard in Missouri, and a very lively memorial service with belly dancers.

You're invited!


23 posted on 01/14/2007 5:19:46 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I don't know you, but I love who you seem to be.")
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To: arthurus; VastRWCon

We'll see whether Bush "gets it" when/if the Democratic Congress sends him a "hate crime" bill that outlaws the preaching of the Christian position on homosexuality. If Bush "gets it" that there are forces in America that want to outlaw conservative Christianity, then he'll veto that hate crime bill.


24 posted on 01/14/2007 5:19:54 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

Well, then. Like Lapin, I'm Jewish. Like Lapin, I understand the connections between Christian belief and American culture. I agree with your statements. I guess I will soon have to make a choice to be either a rebel in the service of free men and women or be a slave to the state. That's one hell of a thing to look forward to when you're going to be 51 years old in a week, but those are the cards I've been dealt.


25 posted on 01/14/2007 5:20:28 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: freedomdefender
Many of us Jews are ready to stand with you. But you must lead. You must replace your timidity with nerve and your diffidence with daring and determination. You are under attack. Now is the time to resist it.

I think the Biblical phrase "Bold as lions" would apply here.

26 posted on 01/14/2007 5:20:29 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: Tax-chick

"I'll get a tasteful monument in the churchyard in Missouri, and a very lively memorial service with belly dancers. You're invited!"

Wouldn't miss it for the world, assuming I'm still above ground myself, lol.


27 posted on 01/14/2007 5:22:03 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: redpoll

Shalom, from a rightous Gentile.


28 posted on 01/14/2007 5:24:58 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: Nachoman

BINGO


29 posted on 01/14/2007 5:27:53 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The money for the expensive seafood dinner and the best local belly dance troupe will be set aside in my will.

Seriously, I think the Chastisement will come in my lifetime (I'm 40), and we'll have to die for the Lord or give up our faith.

I'm ready to die for the Lord. When my father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, I said "My desire is depart and be with Christ, for that is far better," and I haven't seen any reason to backtrack.

I hope my kids don't have to live without indoor plumbing ... but my grandparents managed it, so it's not like that's decisive, in the Big Picture! :-).


30 posted on 01/14/2007 5:30:28 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I don't know you, but I love who you seem to be.")
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To: Apogee
Mohammed was an antiChrist (one against Christ), he used the word of Jesus (rewritten), denied His divinity, His death, and His resurrection. Mohammed led the flock astray; a false prophet.

And his followers dream of an Islamic empire, where the kufir are enslaved for labor and sexual purposes. No more thought given to their (our) slaughter than the killing of a cow or a fish. Radical Imam spout these very words yet there is no global outcry.

Does it have a Biblical/Apocalyptic meaning? I don't know. I do know that Mohammed is an antiChrist figure. No other major religion acknowledges the existence of Jesus while at the same time denying Him.
31 posted on 01/14/2007 5:32:04 PM PST by weegee (A higher minimum wage means a higher income tax level. Did they really get a raise in the end?)
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To: freedomdefender

bttt


32 posted on 01/14/2007 5:34:52 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: redpoll

Slavery still exists in the world today among Islamic cultures (there was a Saudi couple convicted in Colorado who'd kept a slave in the US for 5 years).

Imam say that the world of Mohammed is no different than the world of today. Just because slavery is "unpopular", it is not illegal in the Islamic world. We are not to question the wisdom of the koran. That said slaves must be seized in jihad/holy war, non-muslim, and taken to an Islamic territory before they are divided up does not change the widely held Islamic belief that slavery is still permissible.


33 posted on 01/14/2007 5:35:40 PM PST by weegee (A higher minimum wage means a higher income tax level. Did they really get a raise in the end?)
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To: freedomdefender
The stupid sheeple don't get it.

"Richard Dawkins, an Oxford University professor, is one of the generals in the anti-Christian army of the secular left. American academia treats him with reverence and hangs on his every word when he insists that "religious myths ought not to be tolerated." "

This scumbag is like a god on FR. It's pathetic. Ayn Rand, with the morals of an alley cat in heat are touted here as the way to go. It's all senseless trash and people eat it up.
34 posted on 01/14/2007 5:36:18 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: redpoll
Re your post 10, you note the cowardice of some secular people here in the USA. Agreed. I, on the other hand, can see certain groups of Christians taking up arms (which they already have) and defending themselves.

There is a new book out titled "Prayers for the Assassin." I bought it and have begun reading it. It is set in the year 2040. As forecast, the Muslims have conquered America, well, most of it. You see, most of the states of the old Confederacy (plus a section of southern Missouri) have beaten the Muslims back and established their own country, The Bible Belt.

New York and Washington, DC have been made uninhabitable by nuclear bombs. The rest of the country is The Islamic Republic of America. The capital, naturally, is Seattle.

Farfetched? Not entirely. I can see the Southerners refusing to accept the rule of Muslims, and I can see certain peoples in other parts of the USA armed and ready to do battle, rushing to join them.

35 posted on 01/14/2007 5:36:59 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: redpoll
>>>...compel good police and prosecutors to sadly shake their heads enforcing something that they don't agree with but feel compelled to comply with out of duty and honor.<<<

I'm reading "The Coming of the Third Reich" (Richard Evans). You could be describing "good" Germans who just went along to get along as the Nazis passed laws curtailing democracy and Jewish freedoms.

36 posted on 01/14/2007 5:37:10 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: freedomdefender

Hooah! I am one of the Rabbi's biggest fans.


37 posted on 01/14/2007 5:37:20 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: freedomdefender

I don't fear those who are not Christians, even if they will persecute us. We are called to love and care for the lost, even if we may suffer persecution.

The people I fear are those who pretend they are Christians, while having an agenda to wipe out belief in Jesus and replace it with a self-indulgent secularism with the trappings of Christianity. In this latter category I would put many of the clergy and self-appointed "leaders" of our mainline denominations, as well as phony Christian groups like the National Council of Churches.

I also fear those who falsely teach that following Jesus will bring wealth and prosperity, i.e., the Prosperity Gospel televangelists.

These people are the real wolves among the sheep.


38 posted on 01/14/2007 5:39:11 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: weegee

"...Slavery still exists in the world today among Islamic cultures (there was a Saudi couple convicted in Colorado who'd kept a slave in the US for 5 years).

Imam say that the world of Mohammed is no different than the world of today. Just because slavery is "unpopular", it is not illegal in the Islamic world. We are not to question the wisdom of the koran. That said slaves must be seized in jihad/holy war, non-muslim, and taken to an Islamic territory before they are divided up does not change the widely held Islamic belief that slavery is still permissible...."

Well, I don't know why this was posted to me, but I have news for the Islamic world. I have the great good fortune to live in a country that lists as a right "the right to keep and bear arms." I have a powerful feeling that a gun which will bring down a moose in one shot will do an equally good job on an Islamic slave trader.


39 posted on 01/14/2007 5:40:21 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: freedomdefender
he [Dawkins] asks, "It's one thing to say people should be free to believe whatever they like, but should they be free to impose their beliefs on their children?"

Does Dawkins even have childen? If he does, he shows incredible ignorance of the striving of adolescents for independence. Considering that virtually every child starts to question the beliefs of their parents by the time they are in their mid-teens, claiming that parents "impose" beliefs on children is a bit of a bogus contention. My parents tried to "impose" liberal secularlism on me, and by college, I had rejected it for conservative Christianity. And is Dawkins concerned about the brainwashing of children that goes on in public schools on a number of subjects?

40 posted on 01/14/2007 5:42:18 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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