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Giuliani dismisses pro-gay views as irrelevant to presidential bid
EDGE BOSTON VIA GOOGLE ^ | 12 JANUARY 2007 | AP

Posted on 01/12/2007 7:03:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani on Thursday dismissed his liberal social views--including support for gay rights--his divorces, and his former aide’s imbroglio as irrelevant to a presidential bid.

Asked about a leaked political strategy memo that cited such issues as potentially insurmountable obstacles to a campaign for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, Giuliani said, "That is not going to be the issue."

"I sure have strengths and weaknesses," Giuliani said on ABC’s Good Morning America. "I think that sort of puts me in the same category as just about everybody else that’s running. Are my strengths greater or my weaknesses worse? I don’t know. You have to sort of examine that. That won’t be the issue."

Giuliani, who formed a presidential exploratory committee last year, said he is still weighing whether to run for president. "You have to feel inside yourself there is something special I can do-some kind of special experience I have had or background," said Giuliani, who became known as "America’s mayor" for his response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Giuliani made headlines last week when a copy of his nascent campaign’s strategy paper made its way to the New York Daily News. Aides claimed the 140-page document was pilfered from a piece of luggage when a staffer changed planes. The document acknowledged the obvious: a moderate Republican who has supported abortion rights, gay rights, and gun control may be a tough sell to GOP primary voters.

It also cited his stormy divorce from Donna Hanover, one of his former wives, and his ties to scandal-plagued former New York City police chief Bernard Kerik as potential obstacles.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008loser; americasmayormyass; gaylovingrino; giuliani; gungrabbingrino; homosexualagenda; prodeathrino
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To: Saltmeat

Giuliani almost switched parties after the '94 elections after he prominently supported Cuomo over Pataki. Of course, Pataki was no gem, either...


21 posted on 01/12/2007 8:30:07 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Mr J
Can we expect the lib media to continue waving the bloody shirt of 9/11 on Giuliani's behalf?

Yes, as long as they believe doing so will result in Comrade Hillary becoming President.

22 posted on 01/12/2007 8:30:58 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Listened to Mark Steyn on with marklevin this evening.

Steyn was talking about the money Saudi Arabia spends around the world to build mosques, endow chairs at universities, etc. And that everyone just takes their money.

Neither one mentioned that Rudy did NOT take the money from a Saudi prince after 9/11.

He told the prince to take the money and shove it!

Too bad that little fact didn't get into the discussion.

If we're all blown to bits, beheaded, or glowing from a nuke attack, none of our social concerns will be of the utmost importance.

23 posted on 01/12/2007 8:38:40 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Mr J
"Can we expect the lib media to continue waving the bloody shirt of 9/11 on Giuliani's behalf?"

MSM loves the idea of Giuliani running against Clinton or Obama. They win whoever wins ... and conservatives lose.

Rudy running on the Republican ticket is a liberal's dream come true.
24 posted on 01/12/2007 8:38:44 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"That is not going to be the issue."

Nope, this is....


25 posted on 01/12/2007 8:42:09 PM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration will did something about the GOP)
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To: BW2221
Rudy running on the Republican ticket is a liberal's dream come true.

Then why have liberals always hated him so much? He was attacked relentlessly up until 9/11 by the left.

26 posted on 01/12/2007 8:42:50 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Just keep thinking that Rudy. The last election should bear witness to the lack of conservative values on you RINO's part. You just lost thousands of votes from people who think homosexals are sick and that their act is a SIN!


27 posted on 01/12/2007 8:44:13 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I don't march to other people's opinion of me or my beliefs. I march to my beliefs and heart.)
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To: oceanview
And he's not called ''Senator Wetback'' for nothing, either.

86 this joker, quickly.

28 posted on 01/12/2007 8:46:39 PM PST by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: BW2221
MSM loves the idea of Giuliani running against Clinton or Obama. They win whoever wins ... and conservatives lose

Fiscal conservatives wouldn't lose, national security conservatives wouldn't lose. And if it's true that Rudy would appoint judges like Scalia, social conservatives would be served pretty well in the long run too. I'm not saying to support him, but there is no need to misrepresent him either.

29 posted on 01/12/2007 8:53:56 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: ilgipper

"Then why have liberals always hated him so much? He was attacked relentlessly up until 9/11 by the left."

Care to offer any examples of how "liberals always hated him so much?" He ran for Mayor of NYC twice on the Liberal Party ticket as well as the Republican ticket. It seems strange that liberals would nominate someone they hate to run for Mayor.


30 posted on 01/12/2007 9:05:21 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Dolphy
I am hardly misrepresenting Rudy. Can you name a Republican (other than Lincoln Chaffee) who is further to the left than Rudy Giuliani?

This man was the Liberal Party's candidate for Mayor of NYC. That alone speaks volumes.
31 posted on 01/12/2007 9:08:52 PM PST by BW2221
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To: sasportas

Giuliani is not in favor of gay marriage ... he's ok with civil unions.


32 posted on 01/12/2007 9:12:38 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: BW2221

Further left on what issues? There's quite a long list to the left of Rudy on the war alone.


33 posted on 01/12/2007 9:17:07 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: itsahoot

As soon as I saw this thread I scanned down it to find the inevitable Rudy in drag photo. Some of you are truly obsessed! Men have so often dressed in drag...in the military, college fraternities, fraternal lodges, parties and events. For years. It is NOT a big deal for someone to laugh at themselves and have some fun.


34 posted on 01/12/2007 9:25:24 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: Dolphy
Name one GOP President candidate that comes closer to MSM on more of the issues than Giuilani. Not Romney, not Huckabee, definitely not Hunter or Tancredo ... not even McCain.

He's in agreement with them on abortion, gay rights, virtually every other social issue and immigration. Of all the GOP candidates, Rudy has to be the choice of liberals.

Just as I would prefer the most conservative candidate possible on the Democratic ticket (possibly Bob Casey), liberals would prefer someone with Rudy's views over any other announced Republican.
35 posted on 01/12/2007 9:33:00 PM PST by BW2221
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To: LasVegasMac
Hey Rudy, you are not a Republican, not with those documented positions

Sure he is. Just look how Republicans have morphed over the years from talking about small limited government (even though they really didn't believe it) to fully supporting it, voting for more of it, and calling anyone who dared not to support their waste and spend as 'unconservative'...

The only thing differentiating the Republicans from the Democrats these days is the social issues. But even there they're both big government. One side wants legislation limiting issues such as gay rights, abortion, etc. while the other wants legislation supporting it. And of course neither of these stances is what was intended from the Framers. These issues were intended to be left to the separate and sovereign states.

36 posted on 01/12/2007 9:34:17 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Unfortunately, you're right. Think what could been achieved with a Republican President and GOP control of both houses since 2001 ... and how little was.


37 posted on 01/12/2007 9:42:52 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'll be damned if I'll let the Drive By Media pick my candidate for me!

My time and money will go to Duncan Hunter!


38 posted on 01/12/2007 9:46:18 PM PST by airborne (What good is having air superiority if you don't use it?)
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To: billbears
The only thing differentiating the Republicans from the Democrats these days is the social issues.

Only if you let the drive-by-media pick your candidate for you.

39 posted on 01/12/2007 9:48:25 PM PST by airborne (What good is having air superiority if you don't use it?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So nice of him to tell us, the people whose votes he wants, what's relevant. Hey Rudy...you suck!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

40 posted on 01/12/2007 9:52:34 PM PST by wku man (Gun show at the West. Idaho Fairgrounds this weekend...Boise FReepers, BLOAT!!!!)
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