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1 posted on 01/11/2007 9:00:00 AM PST by presidio9
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This is just another front in the Dems trying to take some of the evangelical vote from the GOP. Make no mistake, the libs are on offense right now, I just hope our side (meaning conservatives - I'm not a Baptist) is up to the fight.
32 posted on 01/11/2007 9:25:51 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Moderates cannot be allowed to control the GOP - 11/7/06 is the proof.)
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“This is a historic event for the Baptists in this country and perhaps for Christianity,” Carter said at the news conference.

What a megalo-maniacal heretics! Both Carter and BeelzeBubba.

33 posted on 01/11/2007 9:28:30 AM PST by OB1kNOb (The American military does not lose wars. The American politician, however, does.)
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To call oneself a Christian does not make one a Christian.


35 posted on 01/11/2007 9:30:14 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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""So when you see the disastrous abomination, of which the prophet Daniel spoke, set up in the Holy Place (let the reader understand) then those in Judaea must escape to the mountains..." (Mt.24:15-16).

Jimmy and Bubba can be seen as disastrous abominations!

They hate Jews too!!

But I don't think Americans are THAT stupid to ever allow these two boobs to set up a church.

38 posted on 01/11/2007 9:32:40 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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Life long Baptist........ has been visiting a Methodist Church for the past 8 months. And this is part of the reason why..........


39 posted on 01/11/2007 9:35:11 AM PST by JFC
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The Southern Baptist are the second largest church in America behind Catholics, and that doesn't count the millions of other Baptists.

There are more Southern Baptists in the U.S. than there are Jews in the entire world.

In the media the Southern Baptists almost don't exist, except for an occasional negative story.

When the media needs religious reaction they don't go to the largest Protestant church in this Protestant nation, instead they get a Priest, a Rabbi, maybe some small church leader like a Presbytarian, and now sometimes a Muslim.


40 posted on 01/11/2007 9:35:30 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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“This is an attempt to bring people together and say, ‘What would our Christian witness require of us in the 21st century?’” Clinton said, adding that his goal is to be a “cheerleader” for the group. Why am I not surprised there are numerous itching ears to swallow this degenerate liar's spittle? Why is not surprising that Jimmy Carter is right there at bill clinton's feet? Are we unaware of what clinton's 'witness' is, or have we lost sight of jimmy and bill's aiding and abetting the terrorists enemies by vigorously seeking to undermine our duly elected president as a means to empower their liberal degenerate party? Is America really so far gone that this obscene effort will succeed in duping so many Baptists?
43 posted on 01/11/2007 9:36:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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'A New Baptist Covenant?

One that antisemitic and claiming that "Jesus is the son of God" will depend on what the meaning of the word 'is' is!

46 posted on 01/11/2007 9:43:26 AM PST by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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[Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists and to address poverty, the environment and global conflicts.]



It's already been done. They call themselves "Unitarians"


47 posted on 01/11/2007 9:45:34 AM PST by spinestein (Remember to follow the Brazen Rule!)
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Bill Clinton, Holy Man.

The endorsement of Bill Clinton is enough to completely discredit any religious organization. The same applies to Jesse "Love Child" Jackson.

I am not a Baptist, Southern or otherwise, but I'm laughing hysterically at Bubba trying to use his "moral authority" to define a religious organization. I think if I was a Southern Baptist I'd be laughing just as much.

As for JC the Carpenter, any man who would sit next to Michael Moore on national TV is not a man to take seriesly. I don't think many people are fooled these days by his Elmer Gantry routine.


48 posted on 01/11/2007 9:46:51 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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Leaders from the Southern Baptist Convention were not invited to attend.

AND.... “This is an attempt to bring people together...Clinton said,

Don't you just loathe lying hypocrites?

51 posted on 01/11/2007 9:54:33 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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Morris H. Chapman, president of the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, said that Carter’s concerns about negative perceptions of Baptists ring hollow.

“He has been one of the most vocal critics of Southern Baptists, using ‘fundamentalist’ as a pejorative and drawing a caustic comparison between Ayatollah Khomeini’s rise to power in Iran and the resurgence of conservative leadership being elected in the SBC,” Chapman wrote to Baptist Press.

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Yeah, Jimmah would know all about THAT, now wouldn't he? :p


53 posted on 01/11/2007 10:00:16 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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This is just part of their "divide and conquer" strategy. They know that the demoncrats hold on power is tenuous, why? Because people of faith unite to try to keep a moral order in this country, and it ain't with them. They know of the power we wield at the ballot box and whatever they have to do to keep congress and gain the white house, they will do. Check out what they are trying to do to grass-roots issue advocacy by proposing the new law (Reid) These groups would have to "register" with the fed. govt. before they started their grass-roots efforts on anything (ie., miles and miles of red-tape, govt. monitoring of their activites--all in the name of stamping out "corruption")
These power hungry bastards DO NOT care about anyone but themselves


55 posted on 01/11/2007 10:04:59 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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One senile and one bastard, bastardizing a "religion".


57 posted on 01/11/2007 10:09:54 AM PST by Waco
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I thought liberals believed in Separation of Church and STATE. I guess they have been lying all along. Imagine that.


58 posted on 01/11/2007 10:11:20 AM PST by therut
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Um, there's already an "inclusive", ultra-liberal Baptist group: they're called the American Baptists. If they're not "inclusive enough, go join the Unitarian Universalists, as already suggested.


60 posted on 01/11/2007 10:12:45 AM PST by BMIC
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This has been coming for a long time. I have been warning my leftist friends who are constantly freaking out about church/state separation that they need to be more careful of the left, than the right on these issues.

It is one thing to have a church support certain governmental policies. It is another to have politicians establishing religion.

Said another way: the problem is not when religion and religious people influence government...the problem is when politicians influence religion.


63 posted on 01/11/2007 10:27:05 AM PST by pollyannaish
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Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists and to address poverty, the environment and global conflicts.

You mean (gasp) we can.........dance in public now?

65 posted on 01/11/2007 10:33:01 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists.

Don't groups like the Baptists hire people like America's Presidents to represent them in the media? I guess that even though these two had twelve years to do the job, all they did is drag the Baptist's reputation down with them.

My Grandmama had it right when she noted that the most prominent member of a group forms the image of that group in everyone else's mind.

67 posted on 01/11/2007 10:45:28 AM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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I hate the politicizing of faith. I hate it when conservatives do it and I especially loathe it men liberals do it.

When faith becomes a means to an end it is no longer faith it is a political mechanism. The meaning of faith is faith itself.


70 posted on 01/11/2007 10:49:47 AM PST by tomcorn
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