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Nato kills 150 Taleban fighters
BBC News ^ | January 11 2007

Posted on 01/11/2007 12:00:40 AM PST by jmc1969

Nato says as many as 150 Taleban militants have been killed in a battle in eastern Afghanistan.

An Afghan military commander said the battle was sparked when fighters crossed from Pakistan into Afghanistan's Paktika province.

The army responded with artillery and Nato forces with air strikes, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghansitan; nato; taleban; taliban; terrorism; wot
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To: jackv

"My son is heading there day after tomorrow."

GOD BLESS YOUR SON!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 01/11/2007 5:54:40 AM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: jackv

"My son is heading there day after tomorrow."

GOD BLESS YOUR SON!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 01/11/2007 5:54:43 AM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: jmc1969

These wars are going too well to suit the Left. Time for them to crank up their stupid whining.


23 posted on 01/11/2007 6:03:28 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: SeaBiscuit

Benevolence and ruthlessness. I guess we needed a pause to show the kids our benevolent side before resuming the task of taking out their lost older generation. Good stuff.


24 posted on 01/11/2007 6:37:27 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: jackv

Prayers up for your son .. we SO appreciate his service. God bless you all.


25 posted on 01/11/2007 6:42:02 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: sweetiepiezer; STARWISE

Thanks you guys!! I am very proud of him!


26 posted on 01/11/2007 6:45:52 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: jmc1969

The surest way to win in war is to kill the enemy; and a lasting peace always follows absolute and unambiguous victory.


27 posted on 01/11/2007 6:49:38 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: jackv

You have good reason to be proud of you son.
My daughter, on the other hand wants to be in the media, she isn't a liberal yet, but exists as a closet conservative.


28 posted on 01/11/2007 6:53:56 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: BuffaloJack


Oh Dear!! Well, we do need good people there too!! I hope she at least goes to work for FoxNews!! haha!

Thanks Buffalo!!


29 posted on 01/11/2007 7:33:57 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Rummenigge

Karl-Heinz is that you? Enjoying your post-football life?


30 posted on 01/11/2007 8:15:32 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: killjoy
I don't believe the statement that no insurgency was ever put down with conventional means. The Romans were very good at stomping insurgency.

War is about breaking the enemies ability to make war or their willingness to fight war. Sometimes both. I believe that in Islam countries ONLY power is respected. If we had Roman rules from the start of this there would be NO "civil war" in Iraq. The price for raising a gun on the wrong side of the line would be too much for anyone to pay.

Also, as a member of the Southeast Asian War Games (Second Place) I fully believe that the North VN's ability to make war was broken at Tet. We just let them negotiate too long after that. Had we taken the FULL battle North in 1969 VN would now be free. The Soviets and The Chi-cons could of whined but we would have freed the all of the country.

31 posted on 01/11/2007 8:26:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I don't believe the statement that no insurgency was ever put down with conventional means. The Romans were very good at stomping insurgency.

Sure, counterinsurgencies can be stopped through pure force IF enough force is used. That is not going to happen in the modern world and certainly not in the Middle East. Neither side has the stomach for that.

Also, as a member of the Southeast Asian War Games (Second Place) I fully believe that the North VN's ability to make war was broken at Tet. We just let them negotiate too long after that. Had we taken the FULL battle North in 1969 VN would now be free.

The US never had an effective counterinsurgency policy in Vietnam and treated it as a conventional war. IMHO, that is why we lost. Taking North Vietnam wouldn't have guaranteed an end to the war. That would have required defeating the insurgents which is a much difficult task that just destroying tanks. Taking North Vietnam without defeating the will of the insurgents to fight would have simply made the war much more costly as is happening in Iraq.

On the other hand look at the British experience in Malaya where they were able to mount an effective campaign and put an end to the fighting. It is a perfect model for what we should be doing in Iraq.

32 posted on 01/11/2007 9:09:31 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: killjoy
How can you win hearts and minds and fight a war at the same time. Can you imagine if we had to destroy the Nazi war machine and have make the German people like us at the same time. Also after the Tet offensive the war turned mainly conventional. We we're fighting a regular NVA army not the viet cong which were decimated during Tet. A battle we won decisively but that newsreader Walter Croncite turned into a defeat.
33 posted on 01/11/2007 9:27:38 AM PST by Mr. Right Now
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To: Rummyfan

lol not really ... I could have called myself Rummyfan also.


34 posted on 01/11/2007 9:32:43 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Mr. Right Now
How can you win hearts and minds and fight a war at the same time.

Read about the British experience in Malaya and you will have a much better idea.

Can you imagine if we had to destroy the Nazi war machine and have make the German people like us at the same time.

Moot point. You are confusing apples and oranges. WWII was a conventional war.

We we're fighting a regular NVA army not the viet cong which were decimated during Tet.

If we were fighting a regular war after Tet, why was a lot of energy being spent into pacification programs using combined US/Vietnamese forces? Those certainly were not implemented to go after an 'Army' in the conventional sense of the word. Maybe if Abrams would have replaced Westmoreland a few years before Tet the war would have had a different outcome.... with or without the support of the American public.

35 posted on 01/11/2007 9:49:35 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: killjoy
"WWII was mostly a conventional war. Iraq/Afghanistan is not. They are both counter-insurgency operations. The same line of thinking does not work."

I'll believe you -- AFTER someone has tried the "stomp" approach in the modern era with modern means..

Until them -- your "theory" doesn't convince..

Wars can not be won -- overly concerned with winning "hearts and minds"...
Wars are won by killing the enemy or severely kicking his ass in the direction you wish -- his heart and mind will follow.

Wars shouldn't commence until all diplomacy and attempts to be "rational" have failed... Once war commences, we should not then burden or endanger our warriors by asking them to be "diplomats".

Until we are 100% committed to killing ALL who oppose us or supports those who oppose us -- we should keep our warriors HOME...

Semper Fi

36 posted on 01/11/2007 9:52:11 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jmc1969

Well according to Chivas Eddy Kennedy and NUancy Pelosi this is only going to make muslims mad and INCREASE how many terrorists there are.

I say the only good Talibanisn is a dead Talibanian.


37 posted on 01/11/2007 9:55:03 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: jmc1969

Lotta good news today!


38 posted on 01/11/2007 10:04:42 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: jmc1969
Something else is interesting in that article:
A Taleban spokesman said those killed were civilians, not militants. […]

The spokesman, Dr Muhammad Hanif, told Associated Press news agency that the figure of 150 Taleban fighters killed was “a complete lie.”

Makes you wonder: How can there be such a thing as a “Taleban spokesman” and why is he not shot on sight? Especially if he is so easy to find that AP can apparently contact and interview him whenever they like?
39 posted on 01/11/2007 10:13:51 AM PST by cartan
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To: SeaBiscuit

What a sweet expression!


40 posted on 01/11/2007 10:14:45 AM PST by Darnright
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