[brivette]

Brokeback Mountain alert.

[Izzy Dunne]

basically, that San Francisco sucks."

Which is, after all, why they're there.

[Macrinus]

Love means never having to say your ass hurts.

[fredhead]

Gag me with a spoon!!!!

[martin_fierro]

[edcoil]

There is tremendous opportunities in Muslim countries.

[fredhead]

"We kept hearing the same thing over and over again -- basically, that San Francisco sucks."

Isn't that what they want, something that sucks?

[albie]

"Chris, 36, whose pursuit of happiness has switched from chasing New York hotties to seeking down-home enlightenment".


...I assume that "hotties" are other men. So "Chris" will seek AIDS at home instead of a gay bar full of "hotties"?

[L98Fiero]

"Many gay men are fed up with people who want to tell them how to behave, and they side with the community they know."

I read this as, "Gay men want to be the only group who is immune to moral judgement by society so they hang around with people who make no moral judgements at all."

[workerbee]

Ryan Norbauer, who lives in Massachusetts, said his experience seeking a lover led him to Web sites and personal ads that were more about sex than personality. "That's not what being gay is about," he said. "Being gay is about loving men, and love is not the most pervasive thing on those publications or Web sites."

[2banana]

Author Christopher Lee Nutter said the message was: "You need to be young, you need to be sexually powerful, and you need to be fabulous."

These values?

[DainBramage]

Oh no.... deepening! Who could have known?

[albie]

"A bunch of us went around the city for eight or nine months talking to as many people as we could, asking them what issues are important, what they think of life as gay men, what they think of San Francisco,"

...and most of the guys said, "it's so gay here, it's even too gay for me! We may as well change the name from San Francisco to 'Penisville'".

[woofie]

more movement? they should try women

[trisham]

These are sad, lost souls.

[Disambiguator]

"We kept hearing the same thing over and over again -- basically, that San Francisco sucks."

When you see this kind of thing posted, it's a sure sign of a thread that has a lot of potential to go downhill fast.

[doorgunner69]

New movement looks for more in identity

So what is the problem? They have been ID'd as mentally ill homos for years. Could not be more clear.

[Paleo Conservative]

The community initiative group has gathered men to talk and hosted forums on hot-button topics like the segregation of HIV-positive from HIV-negative gay men.

How do they separate the HIV-positive gays from the HIV-negagive gays?

[reagandemocrat]

"Gay men are standing in the middle of a tornado, with the pope and the president on one side telling them one thing and 'Will & Grace' and 'Queer Eye' telling them another thing and the gay culture telling them another set of issues," Nutter said. "I think that very tornado is what has directed a lot of men to say, 'OK, who ... am I going to believe? Am I believing Massachusetts, where I can get married? Or Cairo, where they're going to put me in jail? Which one do I believe?' Maybe neither."

Thank you, Nancy Pelosi.

[AmericanChef]

-"Doug, 50, who is helping gay men in San Francisco create their ideal community..."-

They already did. It's called San Francisco.