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A deepening challenge for America's gay men New movement looks for more in identity, relationships
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Monday, January 8, 2007 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 01/08/2007 12:01:59 PM PST by presidio9

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1 posted on 01/08/2007 12:02:02 PM PST by presidio9
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Brokeback Mountain alert.


2 posted on 01/08/2007 12:04:25 PM PST by brivette
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basically, that San Francisco sucks."

Which is, after all, why they're there.

3 posted on 01/08/2007 12:04:32 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Love means never having to say your ass hurts.


4 posted on 01/08/2007 12:04:57 PM PST by Macrinus
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Gag me with a spoon!!!!


5 posted on 01/08/2007 12:05:09 PM PST by fredhead (Where am I going....and why am I in this handbasket?)
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6 posted on 01/08/2007 12:05:58 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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There is tremendous opportunities in Muslim countries.


7 posted on 01/08/2007 12:06:35 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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"We kept hearing the same thing over and over again -- basically, that San Francisco sucks."

Isn't that what they want, something that sucks?


8 posted on 01/08/2007 12:07:28 PM PST by fredhead (Where am I going....and why am I in this handbasket?)
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"Chris, 36, whose pursuit of happiness has switched from chasing New York hotties to seeking down-home enlightenment".


...I assume that "hotties" are other men. So "Chris" will seek AIDS at home instead of a gay bar full of "hotties"?


9 posted on 01/08/2007 12:07:33 PM PST by albie
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"Many gay men are fed up with people who want to tell them how to behave, and they side with the community they know."

I read this as, "Gay men want to be the only group who is immune to moral judgement by society so they hang around with people who make no moral judgements at all."


10 posted on 01/08/2007 12:08:34 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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Ryan Norbauer, who lives in Massachusetts, said his experience seeking a lover led him to Web sites and personal ads that were more about sex than personality. "That's not what being gay is about," he said. "Being gay is about loving men, and love is not the most pervasive thing on those publications or Web sites."
11 posted on 01/08/2007 12:08:39 PM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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Author Christopher Lee Nutter said the message was: "You need to be young, you need to be sexually powerful, and you need to be fabulous."

These values?

12 posted on 01/08/2007 12:09:44 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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You read it correctly.


13 posted on 01/08/2007 12:09:47 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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Oh no.... deepening! Who could have known?


14 posted on 01/08/2007 12:11:41 PM PST by DainBramage
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"A bunch of us went around the city for eight or nine months talking to as many people as we could, asking them what issues are important, what they think of life as gay men, what they think of San Francisco,"

...and most of the guys said, "it's so gay here, it's even too gay for me! We may as well change the name from San Francisco to 'Penisville'".


15 posted on 01/08/2007 12:12:19 PM PST by albie
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Welcome San Francisco Hottie
16 posted on 01/08/2007 12:12:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Big hitter, the Lama...)
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I prefer "City of Fruits & Nuts."


17 posted on 01/08/2007 12:13:19 PM PST by presidio9 (Big hitter, the Lama...)
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more movement? they should try women


18 posted on 01/08/2007 12:14:31 PM PST by woofie
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But many have told him it is difficult to meet other gay men outside of sexual encounters or to connect on an emotional or friendship level. "Over and above, people were saying they really have this longing for a sense of community (and) that they feel everything is fractured, that everybody is paranoid, and nobody is having fun," he said.

So, all these "gay" men have realized that their lives are unfulfilled, they have no normal emotional relationships and no sense of place. WHO CAN BE SURPRISED BY THIS?? When you define yourself by a deviant behavior, what exactly do you expect??

19 posted on 01/08/2007 12:16:17 PM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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These are sad, lost souls.


20 posted on 01/08/2007 12:22:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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