Posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37
Great post.
Do you write that stuff with a straight face?
It's that bad?
People like her are conservatives. People like you are intolerant losers, at best, phony fifth columnists, at worst.
Pardon me, but once again you prove yourself a liar. You spent 20 hours a day on FR. Or, perhaps, was the division you desired what you call your 'work'.
Still here trolling I see.
That's supposed to be trenchant irony, right?
Why should one be hospitable toward fifth columnist ilk?
t isn't an "article." It's a vanity, written for the sole purpose of trashing conservatives fringe whackjobs.
Your posting history here makes it clear that you think all conservatives are "fringe whackjobs."
Ah, because (hypothetically) he won the primary? (He won't have my primary vote)
You're still lyin'. Even in this post I supported Roses as a conservative. Its the ilk who try to limit 'real conservatives' that are the phonies.
I agree the above voters share in the blame for the Republican losses. I was NOT one of them. But there is plenty of blame to go around.
Furthermore, publically denigrating them will not bring them back into the fold.
1) The congressional districts in this country are so heavy gerrymandered to automatically be Republican or Democrat, that most of us here have no say in who our Congressman will be. Only about 50 or so districts in America are actually "competitive", those of us in the other 380 or so have the election predetermined. My district is a small suburban area gerrymandered into a ultra-RAT part of the south side of Chicago. The district is about 65% black and about 75% Democrat. I know the Republican candidate and he happens to be a jerk and a lousy campaigner (having previously volunteered on his campaign for state Rep.) Nevertheless, his record is very conservative and he'd be infinitely preferable to Congressman Bobby "black panther" Rush. So I held my nose and voted for the Republican. Did it make a difference nationally? Of course not. The district's been safe RAT since the 20s and that's not going to change anytime soon.
2) As was previously pointed out, this is not a 50%GOP-50%Dem country, but a 40%conservative-20%independant-40%liberal country. I'd be willing to be that FAR more self-proclaimed "independent" swing-voters switched from GOP to Dem this time around than self-proclaimed Republicans who "stayed home" or "voted Democrat to teach the GOP a lesson". And of the self-proclaimed Republicans, I'd be willing to bet far more Republicans who "voted Dem to teach the GOP a lesson" were RINOs than conservatives. RINO Senator Linc Chafee was basically saying the GOP deserved to lose for supporting Bush, blah blah blah. Many times, conservatives will be heavily pressured to back RINOs in November (notice all the conservatives who held their nose for Kean in NJ), but when the situation is reversed, RINOs will never support a conservative nominee (notice all the open border Jim Kolbe fans, including Kolbe himself, who openly praised the Dems prospects and attacked their own party's nominee once a conservative won the primary)
3) If any self-proclaimed conservatives on this board are to blame for the RAT takeover, it's those who supported lousy candidates in the primary, included RINOs and even "conservative" Democrats, because they assumed they were more "electable". For instance, we had "electable" Judy Baar Topinka shoved down our throats in Illinois by the GOP establishment because she was the only statewide official and could therefore "beat Blago". But in November, she got a pathetic 39% and Governor Blagojevich disposed of her easily by simply reminding voters she was the best friend of the (now convicted) RINO former Governor George Ryan. Blago got 49%, so all Judy had to do to win was simply capture all the "anti-Blago" votes. But no, Judy Baar Topinka got LESS votes statewide than Alan Keyes, who she had publicly stabbed in the back 2 years ago and called him a "disaster". She got a whooping 1% more votes than our 2002 Senate candidate, Jim Durkin, who UNLIKE her had NO money and ZERO support from the state party. Jim Durkin was deemed "unelectable" because he was solidly conservative on 90% of the issues, like pro-life. He got 38% with no funding. She got 39% with the entire GOP establishment raising zillions for her. Then there's the kamikaze conservatives on this board who INSISTED on nominating Katherine Harris in Florida, and ignored reality no matter how badly she was trailing against Nelson. Why? They told us she was entitled to a U.S. Senate nomination for doing her job as SOS and "giving Florida to Bush in the face of massive Democrat protests". If that's true, then every member of the electoral college deserves to be nominated for the Senate, too. C'mon. Her main opponent in the primary was just as conservative, but they ridiculed him and accused anyone who opposed Queen Katherine in the primary of "Being for Nelson", as if the primary election was a coronation. Any how about the "Joe Lieberman is our buddy" crowd on FR? The guy votes conservative 10% of the time, and they're falling on their knees to worship him and do everything in their power to help "him" because he voted the "right way" on Iraq. I know at least four freepers who gloated that they sent ol' funds from out of state. Imagine if they had INSTEAD spent that money on Senators Allen, Talent, or Burns, each of whom lost by less than 1%. If the Joe Lieberman fan club had abandoned him and spent all their time and money helping our guys, we might have won those races. They didn't "stay home", they voted for "independent" DEMOCRAT Lieberman and they just ensured a total Dem sweep of Conn. on the national level.
So I'd say those three factors are far more to blame for Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid than the fact I voted Republican in 90% of the races, including the national offices, but refused to vote for RINO Judy Baar Topinka for Governor. And if you decide to post a record of all the bad stuff Blagojevich does in his 2nd term, I will simply point out that backstabbing RINO Judy Baar has the exact same stance and would have done the same thing in the Governor's mansion.
"For God's sake, the election was 2 months ago. Quit whining about it and just figure out where to go from here."
I think his point is that we need to make sure this situation does not repeat itself. We have to learn from our mistakes.
It'll be difficult, but it can be done.
LOL! I'm embarrassed for him most days. Nice guy. Passionate guy. Not the best at debate.
Democrats are a party bent on surrendering our security to our terrorist enemies.
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Democrats are Marxists. Call them what they are!
Scratch a liberal and under their thin skin is a collectivist socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will find the Marxist fuel rods that energize them.
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