Posted on 01/08/2007 7:06:05 AM PST by shrinkermd
When even President Gerald Ford's funeral at Washington National Cathedral is not exempt from comment about the crisis in the Episcopal Church, we believe it is time to set the record straight as to why our church and so many others around the country have severed ties with the Episcopal Church.
...The core issue in why we left is not women's leadership. It is not "Episcopalians against equality," as the headline on a recent Post op-ed by Harold Meyerson put it. It is not a "leftward" drift in the church. It is not even primarily ethical -- though the ordination of a practicing homosexual as bishop was the flash point that showed how far the repudiation of Christian orthodoxy had gone.
The core issue for us is theological: the intellectual integrity of faith in the modern world. It is thus a matter of faithfulness to the lordship of Jesus, whom we worship and follow. The American Episcopal Church no longer believes the historic, orthodox Christian faith common to all believers. Some leaders expressly deny the central articles of the faith -- saying that traditional theism is "dead," the incarnation is "nonsense," the resurrection of Jesus is a fiction, the understanding of the cross is "a barbarous idea," the Bible is "pure propaganda" and so on. Others simply say the creed as poetry or with their fingers crossed.
It would be easy to parody the "Alice in Wonderland" surrealism of Episcopal leaders openly denying what their faith once believed, celebrating what Christians have gone to the stake to resist -- and still staying on as leaders. But this is a serious matter.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
As a seeker raised in the Episcopalian and Presbyterian churches of yore, decades ago I found the most zealous adherents to Christ in the Evangelical Presbyterian church and especially Dr D. James Kennedy who seemed to be up to speed on what to advise Christians to do about secular humanist issues. Other Bible believing denominations seem to forget that it is not just for Sunday!!
Yeoooow!
Take a look at the web page in my tagline. Click on "N.A. Provinces" and you'll see a list of Continuing Anglican provinces, with links to parish listings. There are a few churches in Oregon, mostly in the Portland/Vancouver area. I know the REC has a couple there.
There is a big difference between the Anglican-named churches in the U.S. (where the original church is called "Episcopal"), which are quite conservative, and Anglican-named churches elsewhere.
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I think Peach may have been referring to The Continuing Anglican Churches which are still traditional and conservative. They retain Anglican liturgy and traditional belief but are not in the Anglican Communion, ie the Archbishop of Canterbury. They separated back in the 70's over the ordination of women and problems they saw in the new prayerbook.
Thank God for John Yates and TFC!
Or mosques.
Although the Catholic Church has been disrupted by modernism, it has the "antibodies" to fight it off and eventually prosper.
I consider myself an antibody, and eventually became convinced that the ECUSA was terminal. The RCC has a tough fight on her hands, but I think my efforts have the best chance of bearing fruit there. I'm in an Anglican Use Parish, by the way.
Oh, and I'm not at all proud of what the EC has come to. I blame myself. Now I'm just trying to do what I can to repair the damage.
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It is clear they don't know the Jesus revealed in scripture.
sionnsar and hiho hiho have given you some leads as to Anglicans. With Lutherans, stay away from the ECLA and look at Missouri Synod churches and the odds will be in your favor. There are a few liturgically oriented PCA churches, but they tend to be in the south. If you are from the evangelical side of the Episcopal church, you would probably find the PCA acceptable. Generally someone will show up and suggest the Eastern Orthodox. If you are very high church, you might give them a try.
It's already happening with the liberal PCUSA.
"Islamic symbol replaces cross after sale of PCUSA church " http://www.layman.org/layman/the-layman/2006/5-november-2006/islamic-symbol-replaces-cross.htm
Kennedy is PCA, not EPC. The EPCs are generally good folks, but in general are more tolerant that the PCA.
Probably don't know much about scripture.
One of those alternatives is to come to the Roman Catholic Church. You are certainly welcome.
There is one in downtown Portland. Where are you located?
**The new pastor at my mother's UCC refers to Jesus as "her."**
Time to find a new church! Yowsies!
Thanks, Salvation. I'm a former Catholic. I love and adore my Anglican church but do miss some things from the Catholic church and will admit when I heard that the Pope was contemplating having mass said in Latin again that my heart went pitter patter.
Robert Conquest's brilliant insight – that everyone is conservative on subjects that they know something about possibly applies here.
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