Poland/Germany - Russian oil pipeline delivery cut off at Belarus

AFP via translation | January 8, 2007

[HAL9000]

ALARM - Interruption of the Russian oil deliveries towards Poland and Germany

WARSAW - the Russian oil deliveries towards Poland and Germany were stopped in the night of Sunday to Monday at the border polono-bélarusse, announced Monday the Polish company of pipelines PERN.

[tgambill]

This brings a little quote from a well referenced book.....to mind.

quote:

"The Reason for such large cash gifts to the Bolshevik cause was simple- Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company had seen an international competitor surface. The source of all this oil-the Baku oil fields, Caspian Sea, Russia. Russia's Czar Nicholas II invited the European partnership of Rothschild and Nobel to develop his oil fields, and had even gone so far as to construct a railroad for their use".

Source: Collier, Peter & David Horowitz, "The Rockefellers: An American Dynasty": Holt, Rhinhart & Winston, New York, 1976, Page 40.

Thus, we have the 1948 failed CIA operation Fiend, and the main reason we are in the Balkans today. No way, can you explain this to most people. Clinton was groomed for the presidency while he was in College, got the Rhodes Scholarship....[a scholarship designed to train future candidates for administration of the New World Order-look it up]....was to take us into the Balkans under half truths, fabrications and other BS....whis is why we sided with the former Muh. in Afghanistan, taking them to Bosnia and Croatia.....

Further quote same source:

"A Bolshevik victory [formed communism by the way] was financed by American bankers, guaranteed preferential treatment for John D. Rockefeller, and world domination of the oil business".

The facts are that an elite group of Men and women manipulate people and events to their advantage. Their offspring has carried out the agenda from father to son to daughter, and recruiting those that gain their trust along the way. Figure this has been going on at least since the early 20th century and is presently in full swing, with events today. During the Bolsheviks these Globalist had determined that they would support the Bolsheviks in just about the same way Paul Warburg would support Hitler through Wall Street funding. [fact and just another story I found from my research] The people wanted the Czar to remain their ruler. The History books were manipulated and made to be incorrect saying that the people didn't want the Czar.

Quote:

The government of Alexander Kerensky, an interim government between the Czar and Lenin, received support privately from industry in America. It was hinted that this financial support came from the same Americans and American Banks that had supported Lenin in 1905".

Source: "U.S. and News and World Report, March 13, 1967, page 67".

Source: "Here's the Proof", Copyright 1994 by Robert Concoby and David Nicol.

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These are the facts. The Trilateral Commission was formed in 1973 by Rockefeller.

"The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, founded in 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who pushed the idea of including Japan at the Bilderberg meetings he was attending but was rebuffed. Along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few others, including from the Brookings Institution, Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, he convened initial meetings from which grew the Trilateral organization. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. It consists of approximatively 300–350 private citizens from Europe, Pacific Asia (Asia & Oceania), and North America, and exists to promote closer political and economic cooperation between these areas."

A lot to take in...but true.

in case anyone is interested....

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/index.html

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html

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Kronos, the article that I was in was out of whack. He printed half truths, fabricated much of what I wrote to him and in my opinion wanted to sensationalize his paper. I'm writing a "long" letter giving them demands of what I want them to do with the article......they took what could of been a good subject and fabricated much of what was written. I'll publish my letter once completed.

In the meantime buckle up for the next 6-8 months.

[tgambill]

ping

[Fred Nerks]

I read one of your links, thanks, saving the rest for tomorrow. This paragraph stands out:

The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes. The evidence provided in this book suggests that the New York bankers who were also Jewish had relatively minor roles in supporting the Bolsheviks, while the New York bankers who were also Gentiles (Morgan, Rockefeller, Thompson) had major roles. What better way to divert attention from the real operators than by the medieval bogeyman of anti-Semitism?

[tgambill]

bingo.....this is exactly right. This paragraph also caught my attention. Getting this across to people is almost impossible.

I compare it to a sophisca-kated...:)) [new buzz word from England....lol..]...shell game. You have one shell, one cup, you can find the shell, unless you are dimwitted. Then, you make it a little game by putting three cups, two empty and one with the shell. You move them around, bet they can't find it.....a little slight of hand, tricky maneuvers they may or may not find it.... In this case, the shell is the real conspiracy, the one you are naming here, is what is going on then and now, full swing. One change...instead of 3 cups, two empty, they have 20 empty cups, make you turn around and put the shell (real conspiracy) under the cup in the back. The other cups or empty or in this case have BS conspiracies that are false and meant to distract and eventually even a political scientist with a doctors degree will actually say, "I don't take in conspiracy theories"...which is exactly what they want. The empty cups or the slight of hand are other conspiracies they have made, hoaxes, and elaborate ones, to throw people off track and put the real conspiracy in the same group. Hiding it in open sight......(empty cups...are Area 51, UFO crashes...lolol :) Serpo Project, a real dusey...people actually believe this crap....I've read the blogs and reviews.....separating JFK assassination as a separate conspiracy, on and on.....to hide the real one.

[metmom]

There go gas prices. DANG!!! Every time they start to go down, *something* happens that makes crude (and them) go up; even if it doesn't affect us.

[tgambill]

it is "crude" isn't it......

[dgallo51]

“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.”
---Friedrich Hegel

The CIA and Greater Albania: The Origins of the US Role in the Balkans | Carl Savich | Columns | Serbianna.com

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/057.shtml

[Atlantic Bridge]

basicaly, it is new energy crysiss like in 70es and 80es. Russia is explaining to EU who is new boss in Europe.

Not very impressing. There is more than enough oil on the free market. Most refineries in Germany (espechially those in western Germany) can buy their oil elsewhere. Only those in the "far east" like Schwedt are dependent on Russian oil. This can be balanced. Although the Drushba-pipeline was closed, the oil-price in Germany is sinking due to the mild winter and a surplus on oil on the market.

From the German point of view this oil-stop is not bad since it triggers the discussion about a changed energy policy (nuclear energy; "energy-NATO or whatever"; a concerted policy in the EU etc.). The Poles are much more aware of the problem.

To Lizol: As far as I have heared the situation in Poland is more complicated than in Germany since you have not the possibility to balance this out. Is this true?

[kronos77]

Nope.

within 20 years Arabian oil will dry,
North Sea rigs will go dry within 10 years.
Only oil rigs that will keep running are Putins and Chavezs...

[lizol]

Actually - Poland gets 96% of the crude oil from Russia - via this pipeline.

The good thin is, that we have so called Naftoport ((oil terminal) in Gdansk, so - if it's necessary - that's some kind of solution.

I've heard yesterday, that 1 tanker ship provides enough oil to keep running the main Polish refinery for a week.

So - one tanker, then another one, and another, and so on...

That shouldn't be a problem. Maybe a bit more expensive.

So - maybe it's not so bad, this situation?

The Russians may find themselves in a surprising situation, if they keep playing like this.

As you said - there is more than enough oil on the free market.

[tgambill]

imagine that..........I use this article frequently. One thing that I discovered. Recall we have talked about how the globalist/New Worlders/Insiders/ et al have kept within their own family structures the tradition of carrying on the agenda for generations starting with Rothschild, Rockefellers etc....they also recruit along the way those that have proven themselves of the same like mind and this family joins in like Morgan, DuPont, House, Ford and so forth. Relative to the article. Reference the failed CIA operation, Operation Fiend in 1948. Frank WISNER, SR. was what appears to be a CIA rept(?), for this operation similar to another Bay of Pigs to overthrow a "supposed" communist who may have been or may not, who knows anymore they lie so much. Well, It failed in Albania and was to promote the BK movement (Balle Kombetar) or Greater Albania. He committed suicide in 1965. Now, reference the scandle at Enron......ohhhhh, Frank Wisner, JR. Now, buckle up your seat belt.

Frank Wisner legacy

“It looks like Wisner had a behind the scenes role in the Balkans for years. Scroll to: Holbrooke's Best Friend to be the US Special Envoy for Kosovo Status Talks:

Former US Ambassador turned businessman Frank Wisner is said to have been selected to become Washington 's envoy in the Kosovo status negotiations, the Belgrade media reported on a Reuters news item. The news agency commented that, through this appointment, the US are demonstrating the wish to give encouragement to the negotiations and get the job done in the right way. Wisner, who served in India, the Philippines, Egypt, and Zambia, is accused by his critics for having worked for the CIA all that time, and for having promoted the interests of the former powerful energy company Enron."


"Enron-CIA scandal about that Dabhol plant when Wisner was US ambassador to India. The Power Elite: Enron and Frank Wisner: A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services that "if anybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India, it was probably Frank." Greater Albania is a major US strategic aim to safeguard the route of the Albania-Macedonia-Bulgaria Oil pipeline [AMBO] and to ensure US regional hegemony. In January 1997, Edward Ferguson, "Director of Oil & Gas Development in Brown & Root, was appointed President & CEO of AMBO." Halliburton's Brown & Root also built Camp Bondsteel, which is "strategically placed near the Kosovo-Macedonia border, giving it easy access southwards. So easy, in fact, that the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army] used it for their subsequent incursions into Macedonia - unhindered." The CIA's William Walker & Carlyle Group's Frank Carlucci are on the board of advisors of the Alliance for a New Kosovo, which is doing the PR work for Kosovo "independence."

""Frank Wisner, Jr. was a big catch for Enron Corporation. His lineage is impeccable, since his father, Frank Wisner Sr., was a senior CIA official (from 1947 until his suicide in 1965) who was involved in the overthrow of Arbenz of Guatemala (1954) and Mossadeq of Iran (1953). Wisner Junior was well-known in the CIA and he worked as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and Under Secretary of State for International Security Affairs; his current boss, Kenneth Lay, Chief Executive Officer of Enron Corporation, also worked for the Pentagon during the US war in Vietnam . With "economic espionage" as a task for the CIA (see PD, 12 October 1997), there is little doubt that Wisner used this instrument during his long-tenure as Ambassador in Asian nations. A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services this year that "if anybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India , it was probably Frank".

[Atlantic Bridge]

within 20 years Arabian oil will dry, North Sea rigs will go dry within 10 years. Only oil rigs that will keep running are Putins and Chavezs...

That is not just the problem of the EU. Within decades it will be for sure possible to substitute oil through other energy sources. We were talking about contemporary Russia, the actual situation and your claim that Putty is showing the Europeans who ist the "boss".

If this would be the case - the show of Putin was not very impressive so far and will get him into deep trouble since he is definitly NOT the boss.

[Atlantic Bridge]

So - maybe it's not so bad, this situation?

Could be my words. Politicians -espechially German ones- sometimes need a kick into their a** to understand that something has to be done. Therefore this kick is for sure not that bad.

Time for Angela to phone the twins...

;-)

[dgallo51]

That would make sense considering how we got to where we are now, and adds much more detail to the timeline below.

Profile: Enron
Enron participated in the following events as an activeparticipant:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=enron

I'm starting to feel like a Chump at Oxford!

[RusIvan]

The Russians may find themselves in a surprising situation, if they keep playing like this.==

What situation? It will be russian tanker in Gdansk womn't it?

As you said - there is more than enough oil on the free market. ==

So as the gas my congradualtions to you got it! Lately you always told about the energy security or like this:). As I told you manytimes even if you will not get russian oil and gas because of transit problems then you always have your coal the plenty of it.

[RusIvan]

Within decades it will be for sure possible to substitute oil through other energy sources. ==

The neutrogen driven energy? Remember that the mining of the Lithium fule on the Moon will be done by Russia:).

We were talking about contemporary Russia, the actual situation and your claim that Putty is showing the Europeans who ist the "boss". ==

Very stupid to think that way:). Russia does not show EU who is the boss she just want the europian prices for her products payed by ANYONE. ANYONE not only EU. So those who disagree should be urged.

[lizol]

"What situation? It will be russian tanker in Gdansk womn't it?"


I'll bet the Saudis also have some tankers.

[Atlantic Bridge]

We were talking about contemporary Russia, the actual situation and your claim that Putty is showing the Europeans who ist the "boss". == Very stupid to think that way:). Russia does not show EU who is the boss she just want the europian prices for her products payed by ANYONE. ANYONE not only EU. So those who disagree should be urged.

It was not me that was urging that Russia is playing "boss" with the EU. I simply answered to #10 in this thread.

Beside of that I have no problems if Russia wants to have market prices for her products. As far as I know the EU is paying market prices for "Drushba" oil. The thing is that we could change our minds if Russia fails to grant us a continious deliverance. Than WE (that means Poland and Germany) will not pay market prices anymore but buy our oil from Hugo Chavez or elsewhere. It is better to pay a few cents more than to deal with instable business partners. I am aware that there are others who will buy oil from Russia. Nevertheless they are for sure much more instable business partners than we could ever be. Therefore it is in the well understood own interest of Russia to deliver again as soon as possible.

Putty should solve his little problem with this idiot from Minsk more silent. Nobody in Poland or Germany will cry any tears if he disappears in the nowhere (I think the KGB has a long tradition in doing so - instead of killing good ones like Politkowskaja they could do something responsible for the first time) but we are not amused if our treaties are not fulfilled.

[RusIvan]

The thing is that we could change our minds if Russia fails to grant us a continious deliverance. ==

Russia simply cann't grant you the continious deleverance because between Russia and the customer countries lay some transit countries which can interrupt the deliverance.

Putty should solve his little problem with this idiot from Minsk more silent. ==

No he shouldn't not. Because Lucash economy depends on the cheap discounted oil and gas. So Luka now just fights for his economical future. He will fail but there will be more distubances.

(I think the KGB has a long tradition in doing so - instead of killing good ones like Politkowskaja they could do something responsible for the first time)==

KGB is long time gone. I think that today West remembrance of KGB just fools yourselves.

but we are not amused if our treaties are not fulfilled.==

No one is amused by that. But the such thing as the "force major" is applicable here.

[RusIvan]

I'll bet the Saudis also have some tankers.==

OK with that. You buy from Saudis but Russia just will pick up China and all Far East. At least Russia borders China so no more transit countries interupptions. Everyone will be happy. IMF Informs that Chinese economy overpassed EU lately so Russia's interests will not be japardised by that exchange.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2006/01/data/dbcoutm.cfm?SD=2000&ED=2007&R1=1&R2=1&CS=3&SS=2&OS=C&DD=0&OUT=1&C=273-223-156-924-922-184-132-134-534-136-112-158-111&S=PPPWGT&RequestTimeout=120&CMP=0&x=66&y=6