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Reports: Bush to replace top generals
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| 1-5-07
| Jennifer Loven
Posted on 01/04/2007 11:41:25 PM PST by STARWISE
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posted on
01/04/2007 11:41:26 PM PST
by
STARWISE
To: 2LT Radix jr; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; 80 Square Miles; 359Henrie; acad1228; AirForceMom; ...
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posted on
01/04/2007 11:44:50 PM PST
by
STARWISE
(They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
To: All
Members of Congress have been invited to a meeting at the WH today.
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posted on
01/04/2007 11:52:02 PM PST
by
STARWISE
(They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
To: STARWISE
I think the strategy before was a holding pattern waiting for several things to coalesce:
a. wait for Iraqi government to pull together, since it must for its very survival
b. keep training Iraqis --- let them sink or swim in the task of fending off terrorists
c. challenge the USA armed forces to work better in war zones with fewer troops
What the main enemies in Iraq are doing is just scorched earth. Make the place hell. If someone really wants to do that, how do you stop them? I think we were running a football "prevent defense" and that gives the terrorists too much running room to destabilize areas.
To: NutCrackerBoy
You go after their puppet masters - Iran.
That moves the war to Iran taking the terrorists focus off of Iraq. They can't afford to lose Iran so the front will move there.
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posted on
01/05/2007 12:07:19 AM PST
by
DB
To: STARWISE
"...wants to replace Abizaid with Adm. William Fallon, the top U.S. commander in the Pacific"
Thus far, the rotation has been between the U.S. Marine Corps and the U.S. Army. Personnel recommended for the position are selected by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, interviewed by the Secretary of Defense, nominated by the President, and approved by the Senate.
Interesting, going the Navy route...
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posted on
01/05/2007 12:21:57 AM PST
by
dakine
To: DB
The Iranians are running the death squads and Basra militias. The Saudis are running the Sunni insurgency. Al Qaeda is running the Wahabist whackos.
This is more complex than you imagine. Least Nine known teams playing in the tournament.They are a fissiparous bunch and prone to doubling at will on doctrinal grounds. Not just the Iranians.
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posted on
01/05/2007 12:23:50 AM PST
by
tomcorn
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: NutCrackerBoy
"[They] Make the place hell. If someone really wants to do that, how do you stop them?" - by making it even worse hell, that's how.
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posted on
01/05/2007 1:27:44 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: STARWISE
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posted on
01/05/2007 2:55:45 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: Radix
"The President should replace more Privates. Heck we could use some more testosterone when it comes to military force over in that snake pit."I will withhold what I would really like to respond to you about what you typed. I had the privelege to meet some of the fine young warriors and their leaders when I attended my son's graduation from Marine boot camp. I can assure you that they all have plenty of testosterone. I can also assure you that the whole military chain of command from bottome to top ultimately reports to civilian authority. Your civilian neighbors, friends, and even family that vote democrap and believe everything that the traitorous anti-American MSM presents have a snowball effect on the civilian leadership that commands these warriors. The President and his people make moves--surveiling terrorist filth and looking at their finances and those civilians and their MSM enablers whine, pi$$, moan and attack not only the President, but the country in front of the whole world. Then those same civilians elect a bunch of America hating democrats to high office to help perpetuate the anti America, military is a bunch of innocent terrorist filth abusers b.s. that prevails.
Maybe the President should let the chips fall where they may and unleash that stored up testosterone in those privates to go in and shoot them all. allah can sort them out. I wish he would. Then move on to Iran and end the caliphate that those civilians are rooting for.
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posted on
01/05/2007 3:15:03 AM PST
by
RushLake
(I neutered my dog; now he's a liberal.)
To: tomcorn
fissiparous?
Great word! Great application.
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posted on
01/05/2007 5:23:04 AM PST
by
norge
To: Radix
WHAT?! You can't be serious? The problem isn't the lack of testosterone in the privates. The problem is the lack of testosterone in their leaders. The ROE in Iraq are a dream come true for the bad guys.
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posted on
01/05/2007 5:29:04 AM PST
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: STARWISE
Gen. John P. Abizaid and Gen. George Casey have been there for a couple of years now, so maybe it it time for some fresh blood, and new eyes.
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posted on
01/05/2007 6:47:49 AM PST
by
Valin
(History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
To: Radix
Last time I looked privates didn't make policy. Your disrespect for the troops risking life and limb is showing. Yes, loose lips sink ships and yours may have caused any lower enlisted who read it great harm.
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posted on
01/05/2007 7:03:09 AM PST
by
pecwae
(USA/USAR/KyARNG Vet)
To: STARWISE
This is exactly what I said would happen! :)
What is normal is reported as a shake up because it coincidentally corresponds to a Congressional election.
Hint- Every year there is a "shake up" in the DoD. On average, one can expect that 1/3 of the crew is swapped out and moves away or into new positions, retires..... It's just normal.
Centcom Commanders and their times in office since its inception:
Robert C. Kingston January 1, 1983 November 27, 1985
George B. Crist November 27, 1985 November 23, 1988
H. Norman Schwarzkopf November 23, 1988 August 9, 1991
Joseph P. Hoar August 9, 1991 August 5, 1994
J.H. Binford Peay III August 5, 1994 August 13, 1997
Anthony Zinni August 13, 1997 July 6, 2000
Tommy Franks July 6, 2000 July 7, 2003
John Abizaid July 7, 2003 present
The average time a commander sits in a post like this is not 6 years! Abizaids' tenure was near TWICE the average time.
This is stupid news. News were correlations are made that do not exist, but just coincide with another event in time. I'm going out on a limb here (Not really)! In 1-2 years the division commander for 1AD will be replaced. Dempsey in Iraq will move on! and so on. But wait, in 2008 we have the Presidential elections. Will all these moves be because of a "shake up" after the elections? Probably.
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posted on
01/05/2007 7:35:52 AM PST
by
Red6
(Come and get it.)
To: DB
That would be the logical, strategically correct, even morally right answer. But the US right now lacks the political will, international political support, national public resolve to go after Iran. The arguments of a lack in military capabilities are facades. If we wanted too, we could. There's still plenty of firepower to go around.
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posted on
01/05/2007 7:41:07 AM PST
by
Red6
(Come and get it.)
To: pecwae; SE Mom; RushLake
I really apologize that my sarcasm was so poorly presented.
When I used the word "Privates I was meaning the private parts of our political leaders.
I have two sons who have served (one currently) in the Army. The one who is now out has received a medal for valor.
I certainly do respect and admire our Troops as much as anyone.
Again I apologize for the remark and will ask for it to be removed.
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posted on
01/05/2007 9:55:47 AM PST
by
Radix
(There is no Allah in Valhalla)
To: Radix
Accepted. I did later think that perhaps that's what you meant (private parts). Thank your sons for their service.
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posted on
01/05/2007 11:50:33 AM PST
by
pecwae
(USA/USAR/KyARNG Vet)
To: Radix
All the best to your two fine sons. They are among America's best. I know you're proud.
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posted on
01/05/2007 12:13:17 PM PST
by
RushLake
(I neutered my dog; now he's a liberal.)
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