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Critics say Social Security deal would give billions to Mexicans
Houston Chronicle ^ | 1/4/2007 | MICHELLE MITTELSTADT

Posted on 01/04/2007 4:55:18 AM PST by markomalley

WASHINGTON — A confidential 2004 agreement between the United States and Mexico could require Social Security to pay billions of dollars in benefits to Mexicans who paid payroll taxes in this country, according to a senior citizens' group that forced the document's disclosure.

The Social Security Administration insists that the agreement — which has yet to be signed by President Bush and sent to Congress for consideration — would cost the retirement and disability fund a relatively scant $105 million annually for the first five years.

But the TREA Senior Citizens League, an offshoot from a group of retired military personnel, and some members of Congress contend the agreement opens the door to paying benefits to millions of Mexicans who have worked illegally in the United States, as well as their dependents, even if they now reside in Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; mexico; socialsecurity; tinfoil
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What the h3ll are these people (the Bush administration) thinking?????

Is this "compassionate conservatism?"


1 posted on 01/04/2007 4:55:21 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

That's it, as soon as I get a better job I'm privatizing.


2 posted on 01/04/2007 4:56:46 AM PST by Niuhuru
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To: markomalley
A must view
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en

3 posted on 01/04/2007 5:03:40 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: markomalley

Once the precident has been set to give away retirement and disability/medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants, another incentive for them to break the law with unlawful entry has been created.

This ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE FOUGHT or it's good bye.


4 posted on 01/04/2007 5:03:53 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Niuhuru

Point being whether you support SS or not we ALL are paying the price for these people to collect. I pray President Bush will NOT give in to the Dems and he will use a veto pen
on this abomination!


5 posted on 01/04/2007 5:03:58 AM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: markomalley

Should this be approved, everyone in the US should stop paying SS taxes and bring the system crashing down. Not only will our poor children and grandchildren be crushed with SS taxes so that politicians can keep buying the votes of the greedy elderly, but now they will be financing the buying of Mexican voters as well. This is simply outrageous.


6 posted on 01/04/2007 5:04:23 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: markomalley

So basically, under Hillary, we get nationalized health care, but under Bush, we get Social Security welfare checks flowing to illegals south of the border. Is there any difference between the Republicans and Democrats any more, besides the name?!


7 posted on 01/04/2007 5:04:53 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: markomalley
I think this article isn't entirely accurate.With this type of agreement, it doesn't need approval by Congress.Congress has so many days to strike it down if they don't approve. If Congress does nothing the agreement stands. This is why it is so secret. We need to call, write, mail, email and then call again our congressmen.
8 posted on 01/04/2007 5:05:57 AM PST by alienken (Bumper sticker idea- We have God in heaven & a Texan in the whitehouse,LIFE IS GOOD!!(not so good,))
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To: o_zarkman44

"This ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE FOUGHT or it's good bye."

How? Our President is the chief cheerleader for the illegal immigration invasion.


9 posted on 01/04/2007 5:06:45 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: markomalley

Wonderful. I've been paying in since 1978, and I'll never see a dime. Instead, illegals will reap the benefits of my labor.


10 posted on 01/04/2007 5:07:08 AM PST by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: stopem
Point being whether you support SS or not we ALL are paying the price for these people to collect. I pray President Bush will NOT give in to the Dems and he will use a veto pen on this abomination!

Last time I checked, the social security administration is part of the executive branch!!! (i.e., this time it IS Bush's fault!)

11 posted on 01/04/2007 5:10:37 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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Defenders of the agreement argue that it is a matter of fairness.

"It's only for people who have paid into the system," said Josh Bernstein of the National Immigration Law Center, a pro-immigrant advocacy group.

Fairness, Fairness, FAIRNESS you asshat!!!

Say it's 'fair' to that American with a Hispanic name who was in the news two weeks ago because the IRS wants $75,000 from him. All because his SS Number was used in three separate states by at least three different freaking illegals.

Go ahead, tell him it's 'fair when he goes and tries to collect HIS SS benefits and they say, sorry you've already used it up - three times.

(All illegal enablers and 'supporters' should be rounded up and shot at dawn - ALL OF THEM! Yeah YOU know who I mean, and I'll pull the GD trigger!!! Just keep giving me ammo.)

12 posted on 01/04/2007 5:11:19 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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To: rabscuttle385

I guess it boils down to whether or not you want Gays to be able to marry or not.


13 posted on 01/04/2007 5:13:14 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolverine

"EVERY ASPECT of our living has changed" as said in the movie and truer words were never spoken.

Unless you live in or near these people (illegals) you have no idea how it changes a neighborhood, city and state and than country.

Someone who does documentary movies needs to come to my neighborhood and film what happens when they buy a home and than proceed to have a continual swinging door business of men coming and going continually, invading your private property, trash, tires old appliances left lying around.

8-10 pickups parked anywhere they darn please, ignoring officers request to obey the law, oh really?

Folks they do not feel ANY of our laws apply to them they know how to play our system BEFORE they sneak in here.

Think I am exaggerating?

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you, they will destroy your neighborhood, your city and ultimately this entire country and we are allowing them to take over. W H Y ????



14 posted on 01/04/2007 5:14:16 AM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: stopem

You must have missed the point of this. The Dems didn't do this. They might be in power today, but they weren't when this was thought up. Thank our party.


15 posted on 01/04/2007 5:14:32 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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And now it has become everyone's problem. The dems getting in power will not help it will exacerbate this problem.

I have no idea why people do not understand or care that these people are poison!


16 posted on 01/04/2007 5:20:21 AM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: markomalley
A similar thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761668/posts. At least this one is from a credible source.
17 posted on 01/04/2007 5:23:48 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, and Townhall.com are not valid news sources.)
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To: stopem

Same here.


18 posted on 01/04/2007 5:24:11 AM PST by Niuhuru
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

World Nut Daily?


19 posted on 01/04/2007 5:27:12 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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Illegal aliens use phony or stolen SS Numbers, if they pay SS at all.

How does the Social Security Administration know who these lucky recipients are or even if they qualify for the payments?

Does the SSA simply take the Word of these thieves and lawbreakers? Isn't there some provision in the law preventing fraudulent payments where fraud is involved?

Oh, wait a minute. We already hand them free welfare, education and medical services. We may as well give them free retirement as well. Never mind.

20 posted on 01/04/2007 5:27:35 AM PST by Gritty (George Bush supports the No Mexican Left Behind immigration bill - Mark Steyn)
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