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"For example, a worker who turns 62 after 1990 generally needs 40 calendar quarters of coverage to receive retirement benefits. Under totalization agreements, workers are allowed to combine earnings from both countries in order to qualify for benefits. The Agreement with Mexico, like other totalization agreements, would allow workers to qualify with just six quarters, or 18 months, of U.S. coverage.
1 posted on 01/01/2007 8:04:53 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement
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Thank you George Bush!
2 posted on 01/01/2007 8:07:02 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: WatchingInAmazement

What's important here is not so much the nuts and bolts of this agreement, but the secrecy with which is has been kept from public review.


3 posted on 01/01/2007 8:07:29 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Obviously this country must have a death wish. I'm speechless.


4 posted on 01/01/2007 8:08:41 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I had really hoped these rumors were untrue. This is just beyond the pale. I need to quit typing now before I type something that will get me banned for life.


5 posted on 01/01/2007 8:11:29 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: WatchingInAmazement
As we are "self governed", obviously we a damn idiots!
6 posted on 01/01/2007 8:11:57 AM PST by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Both the agreement itself and the attempt to maintain secrecy are shocking and a betrayal of the citizens of the US.


7 posted on 01/01/2007 8:12:52 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: WatchingInAmazement
In addition, the U.S. system is progressive, meaning lower wage earners get back much more than they put in; in Mexico, workers get back only what they put in, plus accrued interest.

Once again, Mexican policies are what our policies SHOULD be.

They vigorously go after illegal immigrants and defend their borders. We do not. They operate their pension system like a 401k. We operate ours as a welfare program.

9 posted on 01/01/2007 8:14:44 AM PST by montag813
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To: WatchingInAmazement
in Mexico, workers get back only what they put in, plus accrued interest...

Seems like they have it figured out better than we have.

10 posted on 01/01/2007 8:14:48 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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ping


11 posted on 01/01/2007 8:14:50 AM PST by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
I don't think our system of government can ever recover from its corruption. Our system will have to be changed radically and by the people directly. Ours is now a system not accountable to anyone. It operates under its own self-directed tyranny.

Before the American people force a representative government upon Iraq, we might want to consider restoring it in the United States, first.

13 posted on 01/01/2007 8:15:22 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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"The Totalization Agreement could allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the U.S. Social Security Trust Fund."

There is no SS "Trust Fund". In Ponzi scheme fashion, current retirees get their payments from those currently working and paying taxes. What is worse, some of the social security tax money is used for general purposes not even related to "Socialist Security".

If anyone thinks there is a "trust fund" I suggest contacting the SSA and ask for the current balance of 'your' retirement account. Hear the bureaucrats laughing?


14 posted on 01/01/2007 8:16:01 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: WatchingInAmazement

It never ends. Time for our Caesar?


16 posted on 01/01/2007 8:16:56 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement; All

Would Bush actually sign this???


17 posted on 01/01/2007 8:17:14 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Every day I get a new disappointment.

Where are conservatives to go? Certainly not to the Republican Party.


18 posted on 01/01/2007 8:17:46 AM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I am waiting for the Free Trade and Global Economists here at FR applaud this stinker.


21 posted on 01/01/2007 8:19:30 AM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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"The Social Security Administration itself warns that Social Security is within decades of bankruptcy -- yet, they seem to have no problem making agreements that hasten its demise," said Ralph McCutchen, Chairman of the TREA Senior Citizens League."

I wonder if the above statement really upsets many writers on FreeRepublic. For years they have been anti SS benefits.

Oh well, who cares? Old guys such as I who have depended on S.S. for years will have to figure out another way to "milk the government." Right?
23 posted on 01/01/2007 8:20:35 AM PST by GOPologist (When one lowers himself to argue with a fool, then you don't know which one is the fool.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Awaiting President Bush's signature!!!!
OK since 2004 I see gee somebody is sellin a bridge too..
Pathetic those who want to believe the worst of our president!


24 posted on 01/01/2007 8:20:47 AM PST by Tigen (Live in peace or rest in peace!)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Pull the plug. The ssytem is terminal.


32 posted on 01/01/2007 8:23:26 AM PST by weegee
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This obviously another piece of brilliant strategery by Rove/Bush. We, the ignorant freepers, are unable to discern the benefits of this agreement.

Sarcasm, while maybe not obvious to all freepers, is most definitely intended.


33 posted on 01/01/2007 8:23:26 AM PST by David Isaac
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The sooner the Ponzi scheme called Social Security dies the better.

Oops, but I forgot, you Watchin are not for any reform of your beloved Ponzi scheme.

36 posted on 01/01/2007 8:25:55 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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