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1 posted on 12/28/2006 5:14:04 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Bush could have led the tough on campaign but instead left us to assume he would veto it if it passed.

Bush was defeated last month, from now on it will be like watching a walking dead man.


2 posted on 12/28/2006 5:20:48 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Evidently the House Republicans think their position on immgration was detrimental. They removed Sensenbrenner from any position of authority.


3 posted on 12/28/2006 5:30:11 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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I agree, illegal immigration costing the Repubs the majority is a myth, and our losses are trying to be spun into "you had better support amnesty or yo will lose to" nonsense.


I wasn't aware that Kondracke or Barnes ran for office for instance.


4 posted on 12/28/2006 5:31:59 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

If I am mistaken J.D. Hayworth voted against HR4437 ( the house immigration bill )


8 posted on 12/28/2006 6:07:27 PM PST by Sharks
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I think Republicans were harmed because after six years in power, they had little to nothing to claim as immigration reform.

When you are given "power" by the voters, they expect it to be used wisely.

The voters want a better immigration system. They didn't get it. Hence, they throw out the bums that wasted six years, with plenty of earmarks, but no immigration reform.

(IOW many people aren't strongly "idealogical" about immigration. Yet they know it is broken, and they want a better system.)

And for the ones that ARE idealogical about immigration, the Republicans fail on that count; one house one way, the other house the other way.

All around, the Republicans were spanked for doing nothing.


10 posted on 12/28/2006 6:18:51 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Since you posted a Hawkins article from Human Events, you should read what he has to say about the Corsi and the NAU conspiracy nuts.


13 posted on 12/28/2006 6:36:44 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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"Randy Graf, a tough on illegal immigration conservative, who was attempting to retain a seat held by Rep. Jim Kolbe, was torpedoed by the Republican Party."

Expect more of the same in '08. Look how it's already started here...Tancredo for instance...and next they will be attacking Duncan Hunter...the RNC with Martinez as the pointman, thanks to Bush, will be doing everything in its power to 'eliminate' candidates who want to secure our borders and enforce our current immigration laws.

Of course, if the OBL is successful in passing their CIR legislation anytime soon, promoting an anti-OBL candidate for '08, will be a mute point?


14 posted on 12/29/2006 2:16:13 AM PST by Kimberly GG (PATRIOTS MARCH TO "TAKE BACK AMERICA" (www.lframerica.com ))
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Bookmarked for future reference and use. And I suspect, a lot of 'use'.

:-)



15 posted on 12/29/2006 6:25:53 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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House Republican had ZERO credibility on illegal immigration with a Republican President pushing amnesty. That hurt.
16 posted on 12/29/2006 6:41:21 AM PST by jpsb
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18 posted on 12/29/2006 7:28:05 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: WatchingInAmazement
No matter how the issue plays politically, it doesn't change the facts on the ground and the reality. We are being invaded and the average American is seeing with his own "lying eyes" what is happening in his community as the problem metastasizes around the country. Our overburdened social welfare, educational, medical, and prison systems reflect what the reality is and it will only get worse unless we gain control over our borders including putting in place a real system to go after visa overstays.

The demographics of our current legal immigration system must also be evaluated. Immigration by the Numbers We are taking in over a million legal immigrants a year, much of it through the chain migration policies implemented in 1965. Add to this number 500,000 to 1 million illegal, self-selected immigrants, mostly the poor and uneducated of Latin America. Based on census figures, we have 300 million Americans today, up from the 203 million in 1970, 249 million in 1990, and 281 million in 2000. By 2030, we will have 364 million and will top 400 million by 2050. As a matter of public policy, is this what we want?

When this country goes into a economic downturn, as it surely will as part of the regular cycle, the public will become more aware of the problem. The question is whether it is too late to do anything about it. We are like the frog sitting on the stove with the water being gradually heated and belatedly realizing that he is being boiled alive.

21 posted on 12/29/2006 7:55:55 AM PST by kabar
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You speak the truth. The empty suit Bob Casey ran continuious commercials about how Rick Santorum had a Spanish language web-site that was welcoming to illegal immigrants.

When I went to Santorum's Spanish website to check it out, these statements were patently false-- his Spanish website had the same content as his English website-- but Santorum never answered these ads.

23 posted on 12/29/2006 9:23:44 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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Bttt!


26 posted on 12/29/2006 11:47:12 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Great article.


62 posted on 01/01/2007 3:53:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Thank you.

Thank you for putting the actual numbers on what I knew to be true, but didn't have the statistics to prove.

Do you think Karl Rove told POTUS the truth or are they in dreamland between what he is saying and knows to be true?

John McCain, too, is in denial and evidentally believes he is going to draw the Hispanic vote in the primaries next year.

Now, what happens to the GOP when they pass amnesty this year? Predictions?

65 posted on 01/01/2007 8:22:35 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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