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U.N. Threatening to Trump U.S. Constitution
World Net Daily ^ | December 26, 2006 | Olivia St. John

Posted on 12/26/2006 7:20:00 PM PST by USA Girl

U.N. threatening to trump U.S. Constitution

By Olivia St. John

As the political cauldron heats up for the coming 2008 presidential election, few Americans seem to realize that their personal freedoms secured under the Constitution are perilously close to being trumped by the United Nations.

Preposterous, you say? Not if a Democrat Senate and Democrat president ratify U.N. treaties, such as the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, aimed at dangerously weakening national sovereignty.

A case in point is the European Convention on Human Rights, an offshoot of the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is currently being used by the German government to ban homeschooling and to indoctrinate public and private school students into fully embracing a socialist state. Recently, almost 40 German families have endured imprisonment, heavy fines, state seizure of children, and in some cases the serious hardship of seeking asylum in neighboring countries, all because they have chosen to homeschool their children due to concerns over hedonistic exposure to sexually explicit materials in the German public school system. Incredibly, Sven-Georg Adenauer, a Christian-Democrat governor joined at the hip with the Socialist party, demanded the prison sentences.

According to LifeSiteNews.com, the European Court utilized Article 2 of the European Convention on Human Rights and concluded that "Parents may not refuse the right to education of a child on the basis of their convictions" adding that the right to education "by its very nature calls for regulation by the State."

Furthermore, "the Court agreed with the finding of Germany's Federal Constitutional Court which stressed 'the general interest of society to avoid the emergence of parallel societies based on separate philosophical convictions and the importance of integrating minorities into society.'"

The fiasco in Germany is only a sample of what might happen in the U.S. if....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: elections; homeschooling; indoctrination; internationallaw; littleredschoolhouse; pc; politicalcorrectness; publicschools; soverignnation; un; unitednations
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To: Dead Corpse

"UnConstitutional. Blatantly. Regardless what Ginsberg and her liberal cohorts opined about it."

I agree, but it is the law of the land. Are you going to have the nads to violate it?


81 posted on 12/27/2006 8:00:42 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Calpernia; All

for the skeptics on this forum, there is a lot of information about how much progress the various UN agencies have already made in their efforts to undermine our constitution at this site: http:/www.sovereignty.net


82 posted on 12/27/2006 8:08:50 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

http://www.sovereignty.net/


83 posted on 12/27/2006 8:10:25 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
Are you going to have the nads to violate it?

Yes.

84 posted on 12/27/2006 8:11:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well, at least there's two of us:0)


85 posted on 12/27/2006 8:18:32 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: USA Girl

86 posted on 12/27/2006 8:23:04 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: antisocial

They did NICE work!

http://sovereignty.net/timeline.html


87 posted on 12/27/2006 8:29:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Having guns is of no help against the UN jackboots.

Thats why we own 30 round magazines that are loaded and ready to roll! My family may be out numbered by the thugs at the UN. However, 80 million american gun owners sure as hell will outnumber their 'collection team'. Thats fine, they can come at whatever time they want.. most people will be ready.
88 posted on 12/27/2006 8:51:52 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: El Gato
"The Treaties must be made "under the Authority of the United States". The United States have no authority to trump Constitutional Guarantees, thus they cannot delegate or give away the authority to do so, since they don't have it in the first place."

Bump!

89 posted on 12/27/2006 9:12:55 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Dog Gone

Treaties, in the words of the Constitution, are supreme. The founders did not envision treaties that affected domestic relations and they did not, unfortunately, write appropriate protections into the document.


90 posted on 12/27/2006 10:43:32 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: USA Girl

Someone please ask Levin about this tonight and I'll listen on the air.(It's tape delayed here so I cannot be held accountable)


91 posted on 12/27/2006 10:47:25 AM PST by Ieatfrijoles (110%)
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To: arthurus

Treaties are NEVER supreme over the Constitution.

Continue reading the thread and this will become clear to you.


92 posted on 12/27/2006 10:53:42 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: kerryusama04

93 posted on 12/27/2006 10:56:57 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Calpernia

"...provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; ..."

I believe the word "present" is the key here. How many bills are passed by the Senate at O-dark-thirty with only three or four members present? A search for bills passed "unanimously" would probably give a hint since the entire Senate rarely agrees on anything?


94 posted on 12/27/2006 11:08:17 AM PST by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Eastbound
Let's look at Article VI, para. 2:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

This clause has been employed to, among other things, bring about enforcement of desired (by the government) Conservation laws (i.e., Fish and Game type remedies) that the Congress (or even state legislatures) could not, or would not, do on it's own.

This would also be the clause that would permit effect of the United Nations' Small Arms Treaty in this country, which is one of the chief reasons the Left wanted Bolton out at the UN.

This phraseology is pretty clear, and pretty specific. The Founders put this in there for a reason. What, I might ask, would you deign that reason to be?

CA....

95 posted on 12/27/2006 11:40:12 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: antisocial
I did not say the SC couldn't rule against the Constitution, as they have before, but that it is not permitted according to the document that created the power to legislate or make treaties.

Your position is that what the SC rules, constitutional or otherwise, is correct by virtue of their having ruled so?

96 posted on 12/27/2006 11:42:14 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: arthurus
Treaties, in the words of the Constitution, are supreme. The founders did not envision treaties that affected domestic relations and they did not, unfortunately, write appropriate protections into the document.

This is an important addendum to my post #95.

Our Founders were indeed prescient. Unfortunately, there not omniscient.

CA....

97 posted on 12/27/2006 11:50:13 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Chances Are
there not omniscient

Ahhh, that should read, they were not omniscient!

Ooops!

CA....

98 posted on 12/27/2006 11:52:16 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Dog Gone
Treaties regularly trump the Constitution and that is the source of much opposition to many proposed. Your take is not shared by history teachers in high school or professors in the university. Democrats regularly try to nullify articles and clauses in the Constitution by means of international treaties. Normally, they do not get their treaties ratified because congressmen are unwilling to give up their own power.

Herewith the 2nd paragraph of Article VI

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

This clause clearly puts treaties on a par with the Constitution and therefor trumps it because to reply Constitutionally requires an Amendment which is a difficult and time-consuming process.

99 posted on 12/27/2006 11:54:39 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Dog Gone

How dare you interrupt the Panic?


100 posted on 12/27/2006 11:58:48 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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