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Disillusioned Western Men Seek to "Thai" the Knot (Western Women Are Wrecks)
SAWF NEWS ^ | 12/23/2006 | Pornchai Kittiwondsakul

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by Dallas59

BANGKOK (AFP) - "I could not find anybody in the States. There was nothing in America for me. That's why I'm here," says the clean-cut 52-year-old bachelor, who bears a passing resemblance to Hollywood actor Michael Douglas.

Sullivan, an emergency nurse from Florida, is one of a growing number of foreign men seeking young and beautiful Thai brides via the Internet.

Speaking at the Bangkok office of Sweet Singles, a Thai bride-by-Internet company, Sullivan says he has decided to "go beyond boundaries" in his search for a wife after a futile quest in the United States.

"American women in my age are, basically, a wreck. They are physically and emotionally beaten up from relationships and life. They are untrusting," says the well-built Sullivan, sporting a pink shirt and white pants.

"I think the feminist movement in America in the 60s really trashed American feminism. American women lack a certain femininity about them that women of other countries have," he laughs.

Sullivan contacted Sweet Singles six months ago and was introduced to Yoshita Tongsalee, an attractive 27-year-old teacher of traditional Thai dancing.

After corresponding with her via e-mails for three weeks, Sullivan decided to meet her and flew to Bangkok in early December.

"Just from e-mails, I knew she was the one. I just knew," says the American, his emerald earring dazzling.

"I find Thai women in general to be less self-centered and more family-centered than I find in western women," he says. The couple plans to marry next year.

John, a 43-year-old Briton who got married to a Thai woman four years ago via an Internet bride agency, also has grievances about western women.

"English women are very demanding and they expect you to be good-looking and have plenty of money and give them lots of attention. They drink a lot and they smoke a lot and they eat a lot," says John, who declined to give his last name.

"I am not very good at getting women anyway. I'm not the best-looking guy in the world. I'm quite short and it's very hard for me to find an English woman who is shorter than me," he says on the telephone from London.

Before marrying his Thai bride, John dated six British women, but his relationships with them were anything but happy.

"I'm just fed up with British women. They are not so loyal," he says.

When he met six Thai ladies in Bangkok via the Internet, including a 32-year-old business woman who later became his wife, John says he was struck by their kindness and family-centered values.

"I think Thai women are more loyal to their husbands. They are not just 'take, take take.' Also they have old-fashioned family values, which we used to have in this country," he says. John and his wife now have two young boys.

John and Marc declined to say how much they paid to get their Thai wives. Sweet Singles says it can charge a foreign man up to 1,700 dollars for a three-year membership to meet Thai ladies.

Some 10,000 foreign men have signed up with Sweet Singles over the last decade, and nearly half of them were previously divorced, says Bee, the company's customer service manager.

Some 80 percent of them get married to Thai women through the agency.

Americans account for 60 percent of the company's male clients, with the rest mostly from Australia, Britain, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Their average age ranges from 55 to 60.

Some 20,000 Thai women have also joined Sweet Singles, with their ages ranging from 20 to 40. The company charges a Thai woman 700 baht (20 dollars) for membership.

Bee, a petite 40-something, says Thai woman often have a favorable impression of foreigners.

"Many Thai girls were disappointed by Thai men who are famous for womanizing, drinking and gambling. Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women," she says.

Thanitchaya Buaban, a striking 26-year-old beauty from Thailand's northern tourist spot of Chiang Mai, says she used to have a Thai boyfriend but he cheated on her many times.

"I was heart-broken. After I joined Sweet Singles, I started meeting foreigners and they were very kind and polite," she says at the firm's office.

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

"I'm going to choose the best one," she says with a big smile.

For Sullivan's fiancee Yoshita, her experiences with Thai men were more traumatic.

"I was planning to marry my first Thai boyfriend, but he did not show up on our wedding day. He embarrassed me and my family," Yoshita says. "My second boyfriend cheated on me and impregnated another woman."

But Yoshita, who wears a golden heart necklace, says she is looking forward to living in Florida with the man of her dreams -- even if she still refers to him by his last name.

"I believe Mr Sullivan is a gift from God. He is really a good man and respects me. Every day I pray and thank Buddha for giving me Mr Sullivan," she says.

Sullivan nodded and held her hand.

"I have to step outside my own culture to find someone with whom I am compatible. I am not narrow-minded in that regard," he smiles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: asianbrides; dating; mailorderbrides; marriage; sexes; single; thailand
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To: Cogadh na Sith

You sure could have fooled us. You sounded very proud of your pre-marital porking of married women. What, is your wife looking over your shoulder now?


321 posted on 12/23/2006 8:23:33 PM PST by cammie
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To: Cogadh na Sith
re: I wanna belong to the political movement with hot polite wives who wanna have kids.)))

Who have husbands who are not paying good attn to what's going on...or are polite enough to pretend not to notice?

322 posted on 12/23/2006 8:23:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: killjoy

Ever get to Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 just off of the Nana station?

Great outdoor minibar for expats, my fave.


323 posted on 12/23/2006 8:23:48 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: killjoy

Sawadee cup...


324 posted on 12/23/2006 8:24:28 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: BubbaHeel

Not "can you cook?" -- "WILL you cook?"

I bet not....


325 posted on 12/23/2006 8:24:44 PM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: killjoy
re: Unfortunately far too many of those looking for wives end up with former prostitutes here in Thailand)))

How are they doing in controlling AIDS? A few years back the incidence of new cases in Thailand was astonishing.

326 posted on 12/23/2006 8:24:52 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: paulat

I understand it quite well, of course later on it turned from sarcasm to a witful repartee meant to arise anger, but then again I am just drinking spiked eggnog right now and enjoying a good laugh on a funny thread.


327 posted on 12/23/2006 8:24:52 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: cammie

"chauvinist piggery that occassionally infects Free Republic."

Is that the "I'd hit it" comments or the "Wife stays at home to homeschool the kids while the husband brings home the bacon" comments?


328 posted on 12/23/2006 8:24:58 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: cammie

You left out fishwife and fussbudget....


329 posted on 12/23/2006 8:25:02 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Bronzewound; cammie

Well said!


330 posted on 12/23/2006 8:25:04 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Mamzelle
Who have husbands who are not paying good attn to what's going on...or are polite enough to pretend not to notice?

What, that their cheating on him?

What an odd comment....

331 posted on 12/23/2006 8:25:37 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Thumper1960

Amish and Mennonite sometimes wear pink, yellow or green shirts. Though, black pants are obligatory. As for earrings, there are a few fellows around here who'd cause your dentist to become wealthy should you question their manliness due to ear apparel. :-)>>>

Not to mention they do mail order brides the best, oops I mean sometimes the y have arranged marriages to girls they dont meet until there wedding.(sometimes to girls half there age even)


332 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:01 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Mamzelle
I thought you were leading by example.

I'm trying to! Granted, it's a bad example, but an example none-the-less...

333 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:02 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: TOneocon
you need to take a deep breath and re-write your post. It isn't clear.

Who are not the Freepers? I think you said empowerment made men into sperm donors but I am not sure.

334 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:17 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Mamzelle
How are they doing in controlling AIDS? A few years back the incidence of new cases in Thailand was astonishing.

AFAIK, AIDS is not a real problem and is spread mostly through drug use. I don't hang out in that scene so I can't comment too much on it.

335 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:18 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Dallas59

Do you see what you've started? :-)


336 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:31 PM PST by The Black Knight (The Tengu Demon with a heart)
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To: HighWheeler
re: Real men have an internal driven need to provide and protect our woman and our family.)))

Uh...you really ought to read the whole thread.

337 posted on 12/23/2006 8:27:48 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: cammie
Do you know how to mend socks?


338 posted on 12/23/2006 8:28:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Ever get to Cheap Charlies on Suk 11 just off of the Nana station? Great outdoor minibar for expats, my fave.

It would cost me 200 Baht just to get there by taxi from where I am at. :( I don't really know any expats in Thailand. I can count my western friends here on one hand.

339 posted on 12/23/2006 8:29:31 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: cammie
So Bronzewound, let's just cut to the chase: You're our Mr. Sullivan, aren't you?

Not the kind of analytical skills I would expect from a professional barrister.

I am 53 years old and am happily married to the same American woman for 33 years. I have a 21 year old son who is a productive working citizen, who loves us and visits often. I am a very successful illustrator, graphic designer, and web site designer (no, that doesn't make me gay) and I love what I do.

I have been faithful to my wife and vice versa. I have a house on a few acres outside of Nashville. I do not wear white pants, ever, or pink shirts; mostly I wear blue jeans. Nor am I adorned with any gemstones or jewelry of any kind, other than my wedding band.

I also write songs with some of the local talent from time to time when the muse drops by. My wife is a working professional whose wisdom I greatly value and could not survive well without. She seems to like me quite a bit, but she peeked at this thread to see what I was laughing about and thinks you sound a bit like a "ballbuster."

Forgive me, but I missed the memo about ER nurses being gay. Also, lots of guys wear earrings these days. Not sure that means much anymore.

And as for the subsequent posts who believe Mr. Sullivan to be gay, logically then, all the subsequent posts identifying you to be embittered must also be true. Right?

I rest my case.

340 posted on 12/23/2006 8:29:42 PM PST by Bronzewound
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