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Disillusioned Western Men Seek to "Thai" the Knot (Western Women Are Wrecks)
SAWF NEWS ^ | 12/23/2006 | Pornchai Kittiwondsakul

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by Dallas59

BANGKOK (AFP) - "I could not find anybody in the States. There was nothing in America for me. That's why I'm here," says the clean-cut 52-year-old bachelor, who bears a passing resemblance to Hollywood actor Michael Douglas.

Sullivan, an emergency nurse from Florida, is one of a growing number of foreign men seeking young and beautiful Thai brides via the Internet.

Speaking at the Bangkok office of Sweet Singles, a Thai bride-by-Internet company, Sullivan says he has decided to "go beyond boundaries" in his search for a wife after a futile quest in the United States.

"American women in my age are, basically, a wreck. They are physically and emotionally beaten up from relationships and life. They are untrusting," says the well-built Sullivan, sporting a pink shirt and white pants.

"I think the feminist movement in America in the 60s really trashed American feminism. American women lack a certain femininity about them that women of other countries have," he laughs.

Sullivan contacted Sweet Singles six months ago and was introduced to Yoshita Tongsalee, an attractive 27-year-old teacher of traditional Thai dancing.

After corresponding with her via e-mails for three weeks, Sullivan decided to meet her and flew to Bangkok in early December.

"Just from e-mails, I knew she was the one. I just knew," says the American, his emerald earring dazzling.

"I find Thai women in general to be less self-centered and more family-centered than I find in western women," he says. The couple plans to marry next year.

John, a 43-year-old Briton who got married to a Thai woman four years ago via an Internet bride agency, also has grievances about western women.

"English women are very demanding and they expect you to be good-looking and have plenty of money and give them lots of attention. They drink a lot and they smoke a lot and they eat a lot," says John, who declined to give his last name.

"I am not very good at getting women anyway. I'm not the best-looking guy in the world. I'm quite short and it's very hard for me to find an English woman who is shorter than me," he says on the telephone from London.

Before marrying his Thai bride, John dated six British women, but his relationships with them were anything but happy.

"I'm just fed up with British women. They are not so loyal," he says.

When he met six Thai ladies in Bangkok via the Internet, including a 32-year-old business woman who later became his wife, John says he was struck by their kindness and family-centered values.

"I think Thai women are more loyal to their husbands. They are not just 'take, take take.' Also they have old-fashioned family values, which we used to have in this country," he says. John and his wife now have two young boys.

John and Marc declined to say how much they paid to get their Thai wives. Sweet Singles says it can charge a foreign man up to 1,700 dollars for a three-year membership to meet Thai ladies.

Some 10,000 foreign men have signed up with Sweet Singles over the last decade, and nearly half of them were previously divorced, says Bee, the company's customer service manager.

Some 80 percent of them get married to Thai women through the agency.

Americans account for 60 percent of the company's male clients, with the rest mostly from Australia, Britain, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Their average age ranges from 55 to 60.

Some 20,000 Thai women have also joined Sweet Singles, with their ages ranging from 20 to 40. The company charges a Thai woman 700 baht (20 dollars) for membership.

Bee, a petite 40-something, says Thai woman often have a favorable impression of foreigners.

"Many Thai girls were disappointed by Thai men who are famous for womanizing, drinking and gambling. Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women," she says.

Thanitchaya Buaban, a striking 26-year-old beauty from Thailand's northern tourist spot of Chiang Mai, says she used to have a Thai boyfriend but he cheated on her many times.

"I was heart-broken. After I joined Sweet Singles, I started meeting foreigners and they were very kind and polite," she says at the firm's office.

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

"I'm going to choose the best one," she says with a big smile.

For Sullivan's fiancee Yoshita, her experiences with Thai men were more traumatic.

"I was planning to marry my first Thai boyfriend, but he did not show up on our wedding day. He embarrassed me and my family," Yoshita says. "My second boyfriend cheated on me and impregnated another woman."

But Yoshita, who wears a golden heart necklace, says she is looking forward to living in Florida with the man of her dreams -- even if she still refers to him by his last name.

"I believe Mr Sullivan is a gift from God. He is really a good man and respects me. Every day I pray and thank Buddha for giving me Mr Sullivan," she says.

Sullivan nodded and held her hand.

"I have to step outside my own culture to find someone with whom I am compatible. I am not narrow-minded in that regard," he smiles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: asianbrides; dating; mailorderbrides; marriage; sexes; single; thailand
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To: cammie
Old Romeos...
281 posted on 12/23/2006 8:07:46 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Dallas59

I have to say I agree with him

American males have to deal with women who get their hair cut off (and all their femail friends tell them 'how cute' it looks) and gain 40 pounds by the time they are 40.

So.. they marry a petite long haired beauty, and end up 10 years later with a fat short hair guy.

Who can blame them

American men can be slobs too- i know...

My asian woman will never cut her hair because she knows I love it long. I will never get a fat tummy because I know she does not like that. It is called mutual respect.

American women want everyhing , and eng up gettin it in courts


282 posted on 12/23/2006 8:08:10 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Dallas59

I'm happily married to an American woman for 33 years now, so I wouldn't be inclined to agree with the premise that American women are so obnoxious. OTOH, the female comments on this thread are pretty damn shrill.


283 posted on 12/23/2006 8:08:24 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I think I'm in love with you. LOL.


284 posted on 12/23/2006 8:08:44 PM PST by cammie
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To: Cogadh na Sith
I have been following this thread since it was posted. Your doing a fine job. Don't let this hussies beat on you. There just the moral superior trash who appear to be feminist trolls. All they know how to do is chew you up and spit you out without ever asking the question, "How did us women get here and how can we make ourselves appear to be worth something". The "mail-order-bride" industry is here because feminism has empowered women to the point where men feel they are used as sperm donors and financial resources. These ladies are not what I consider to be FReepers. Only lefties hate the facts. Their attitude toward men is only helping this industry flourish and themselves look like fools.
285 posted on 12/23/2006 8:09:25 PM PST by TOneocon
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To: OwenKellogg
) This thread is better than the Roseanne vs. The Don flap

Soon as I saw the title, I knew this would be a good thread. Its been awhile since I've seen a mail order bride thread

286 posted on 12/23/2006 8:09:39 PM PST by dc27
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To: Sam Cree

And some of the male comments aren't shrill? Or is shrill a comment reserved for us mouthy women?


287 posted on 12/23/2006 8:10:36 PM PST by cammie
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To: Mamzelle

Ah. I'm trying to keep caught up. Really.


288 posted on 12/23/2006 8:10:40 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: cammie
Basically, the "go home, get pregnant, make dinner, shut up" view of the world.

Cuz' what the Western World needs now is less children, less dinner with the family and more bitchy old female attorneys.

It should be a song:

What the World Needs Now
Is Less Dinner....

Ohhhh, what the world needs now
Is less children....

Whoaaaaooooaaa what the world needs now
Is more bitchy female attorneys!!!!

Whoa oh oh!

It's a million seller....

289 posted on 12/23/2006 8:11:29 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: null and void
re: People tend to remember/cope with stress/deal with things better when the hard parts are wrapped in humor.)))

LOL...try that one on a 900 line...

290 posted on 12/23/2006 8:11:37 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: TOneocon

Stay away from the Russian, Moldovan or Croatian women, they will slice you up and leave with your dough!

Tough women.

LOL


291 posted on 12/23/2006 8:11:38 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The recent reauthorization of the Violence Against Women's Act included an ugly little rider. Its intent was clear to stop American Men from Finding Foreign Brides to bring home to the US. If Men were only interested in the Sex Trade there is plenty available in Thailand. These Men are looking for Wives.

The comments here reflect a prejudice towards the Men seeking more Traditional Women. The fact is that the rate of Divorce for Foreign Wives is 20% in the US. This dispite all the laws rewarding Women who "Cash Out" in Divorce. Still much lower than the US Divorce rate. Since 2003 to 2005 the Marriage Rate to Foreign Women has doubled in the US.

So those who want to cast aspersions on Men who want to avoid the Misandric US Women, who have been indoctrinated for Decades is falling on deaf ears. Men could care less what US Women think. After decades of being impugned Men are doing their own thing and rejecting US Women. Feminism is freeing Men from Marriage and relationships to US Women. Tell me Ladies do you like this trend?


292 posted on 12/23/2006 8:12:17 PM PST by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Yeah, I know, bitchy female attorneys like Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham have been such a horror for the conservative movement. We should all just go home and make dinner for you.

I'll remember that next time I am asked to take a pro bono case for a conservative cause...I'm a bitchy female attorney, and darn it, the Sith doesn't like me. I should just go make dinner for my man.


293 posted on 12/23/2006 8:13:56 PM PST by cammie
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To: paulat

(watching diamond commercial on TV now)

Wow! You really ARE a waste of time!!>>

I am sorry but unless you are being a willing accomplice he is totally getting the best of you with his sarcastic humor.


294 posted on 12/23/2006 8:13:56 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
"Treat her like a thoroughbred and she won't be a nag. "

I do :)
She isn't a nag, but she is a thoroughbred ha!

295 posted on 12/23/2006 8:14:03 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Dallas59
Your choice: a Thai woman, or one of the native loudmouth Bobbsey Twins on the thread!


296 posted on 12/23/2006 8:14:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: cammie
It's better for a Real Guy to brag about seducing another man's wife than for a gal to give as good as she gets...
297 posted on 12/23/2006 8:15:29 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: cammie

Ann Coulter is a woman?

That adam's apple of hers really creeps me out.


298 posted on 12/23/2006 8:15:40 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: aft_lizard
I am sorry but unless you are being a willing accomplice he is totally getting the best of you with his sarcastic humor.

...then you don't understand sarcasm....

299 posted on 12/23/2006 8:15:58 PM PST by paulat
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Amish and Mennonite sometimes wear pink, yellow or green shirts. Though, black pants are obligatory. As for earrings, there are a few fellows around here who'd cause your dentist to become wealthy should you question their manliness due to ear apparel. :-)


300 posted on 12/23/2006 8:16:36 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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