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Pelosi may not seat winner in disputed Sarasota race
Sun Sentinel ^ | 12/23/06 | AP

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:04:28 PM PST by Patriot28

SARASOTA, Fla. -- Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering not sitting the certified Republican winner of a contested congressional election when Congress reconvenes next month, her spokesman said.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Pelosi, said the congresswoman has not yet decided what to do about the contested District 13 race where Republican Vern Buchanan was certified the winner by the state by a margin of 369 votes over Democrat Christine Jennings.

"The bottom line here is that nothing's off the table," Hammill said.

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To: roostercogburn
The machines showed that over 18,000 ballots were cast in Sarasota County without a choice in the congressional race -- an "undervote" rate 10 percent higher than in surrounding counties in the district.

As I read this, if the "undervote" rate in surrounding counties was 10%, then the "undervote" in Sarasota County would have been 11%.

Statistically insignificant on its face.

It's going to be a long two years. Especially with a confused and docile 'Pubbie minority a President who's even acting like a lame duck.

41 posted on 12/23/2006 6:58:55 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

That math is wrong. 13% of the ballots in Sarasota county were blank for Representative, the percentage in other counties was 3% or less. It is 10% of the total, not 10% more undervotes, and that is statistically extremely anomalous.

It seems pretty obvious that there was a major voting machine snafu, and that the "real winner" is probably unknowable.

Nonetheless, it is up to Florida to certify the winner or order a new election. If Nancy P. wants to decline to seat the Republican, she can make a case for it, but it would be very unwise politically. (Which is why I hope she does it.)

If she actually seats the Democrat, rather than leaving the seat vacant, all hell will break loose.

The Republicans couls have acted like Democrats and refused to seat Sanchez or Landrieu, but again it is really up to the judges or voters of the state to rectify these matters.

In general the Republicans need to be MUCH MUCH tougher on the Democrats regarding the stealing of elections. However, this is NOT a good case to start doing that, there was clearly a major screwup somewhere with the voting machines.


42 posted on 12/23/2006 7:41:34 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Good point, and I didn't know that Kuchel hired Panetta first. Kuchel made Nixon SEEM conservative.


43 posted on 12/23/2006 7:41:52 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Patriot28
Fine! Then we're back to the Olde Tone in Washington.

Let Pelosi refuse to seat Buchanan, and then let the Republicans in the Senate filibuster the organizing vote until they get a promise from Harry Reid that they can reorganize if the balance in the Senate changes within the next two years.

-PJ

44 posted on 12/23/2006 7:44:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Hoodat
"They did do it in 1984. And they will try it again since Republicans did nothing to stop them the last time."

Exactly right. And don't forget how they permitted Sanchez to steal Dornan's seat with illegal votes because Newt thought Dornan was an embarrassment with his "special orders" on C-Span.

45 posted on 12/23/2006 7:45:14 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

Yes, again, we pay for the legacy of Newt.


46 posted on 12/23/2006 7:57:23 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

We the people.....

If she doesn't care for elections, we have other ways of expressing our views. Some are less polite.


47 posted on 12/23/2006 8:29:54 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Patriot28

my my aint we off to a fien 'bipartisan' post election year-- http://sacredscoop.com


48 posted on 12/23/2006 8:37:32 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Mo1

Since when do the RATs care about the law and the Constitution? We saw how much they care about other peoples' rights during the 2004 election.


49 posted on 12/23/2006 9:32:30 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: Patriot28

It's ironic; the dems whine and throw a fit whenever Republicans look at them the wrong way and accuse them of fascism, yet the minute they gain power, they turn around and and act like fascists for real. And their pea-brained supporters don't say a word.


50 posted on 12/23/2006 9:41:10 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: Mo1

Sounds like she is gonna darn well try.

Keep it up Nancy...just keep doing this stuff...we are taking notes.


51 posted on 12/23/2006 9:43:32 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Bahbah

I tell ya, she is Joan Crawford .....don't let her near wire hangers!!


52 posted on 12/23/2006 9:44:42 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: centurion316
For those who sat on their hands this election in order to teach the Republicans a lesson, know this: the Democrats, having been out of power in the House for 12 years will stop at nothing to see that they never lose power again.

You have that right not to mention that same group of people now are saying if Republicans don't put up a social conservative they are staying home. As far as I am concerned, we need to start looking elsewhere for votes because this group cannot be counted on in close elections. I have had it with the 'my way or no way' or 'we are going to teach Republicans a lesson because we don't agree with them 100%' crowd!

53 posted on 12/23/2006 9:45:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Big 12 Champions! Rudy 2008)
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To: Patriot28
Sounds like colonial America circa 1775 all over again.

Sounds like communism to me. Time to trade in the donkey for the hammer and sickle.

54 posted on 12/23/2006 10:08:34 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: sgtbono2002

It's in the constitution. Each house of Congress is the final arbiter of who sits.


55 posted on 12/23/2006 11:00:19 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: So Cal Rocket

But she won't be the speaker until after the new Congressmen are all seated in the new house. Until then, Hastert is still the speaker. Therefore it's the old house that decides who will be seated in the new house, right?


56 posted on 12/23/2006 11:07:40 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: So Cal Rocket

I do believe that if she insists on treating republicans this way the sizable minority can and will make her next two years somewhat unpleasant. I forsee daily quorum calls and 10 minutes work completed for every 12 hours in session. Confusing abuse of the opposition with House disipline will not yield her intended results.


57 posted on 12/23/2006 11:24:06 PM PST by cartoonistx
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To: Txsleuth

LOL. A happy Christmas Eve day to you and yours, sleuthie.


58 posted on 12/24/2006 4:12:52 AM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Patriot28

This is news? The RATS will no longer recognize the will of the voters unless said will validates the RAT agenda. They only protect the "disenfranchised" in cases where voters are too stupid to distinguish between Algore and Pat Buchanan. Nothing new here, move along.


59 posted on 12/24/2006 5:00:37 AM PST by thelastvirgil (Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
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To: thelastvirgil

In the 1984 election, Rep. McCloskey faced conservative state senator Rick McIntyre. Buoyed by President Reagan's strong coattails, McIntyre trailed McCloskey by only 72 votes after the initial vote count. A tabulation error, however, resulted in an overcounting of McCloskey votes and the Republican Indiana Secretary of State certified McIntyre as the winner by 34 votes, ignoring other recounted tallies that actually showed McCloskey was in the lead. The Democratic-controlled House refused to seat either McIntyre or McCloskey and conducted their own recount. In the end, the House seated McCloskey after declaring him the winner by just four votes (116,645 to 116,641). The vote was largely along partisan lines and in response every Republican House member marched out of the chamber in protest.


60 posted on 12/24/2006 6:26:55 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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